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    It was lovely to finally meet John on a recent trip to Glasgow! (St Patricks day) It was a miserable day, Raining and gloomy, but we had a very pleasant couple of hours together, along with some other friends, drinking wine and consuming some rather good food in a splendid venue in Glasgow! I hope we can do this again one day mate! It was truly a lovely evening. And an incredible coincidence that we happened to be sporting the same hat! Cheers buddy!
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    Hi everyone, been a while. This song has always been one of my favorites, but I've known for some time that I didn't nail the mix (regrettably, not before uploading this terrible version to Youtube.) I'm confident I've finally got the thing moving in the right direction, but have some lingering questions I was hoping to get some feedback on. There was way too much reverb on the earlier percussion, so I blended in some dry samples to bring it more into the room. Have I sufficiently done so? The bass had to come way up, is it on target now? Any missing notes? Did I thin out the opening acoustic too much? Both vocals were way too up front and have been pushed back with reverb/eq. Do they sit right in the mix now? Any other feedback is welcome. Some of you may recognize Janice Ho's lovely vocals, which carry the song. I can't thank her enough. EDIT: A mix update [has been removed]. A starlit veranda A table for two It's easy to pretend I'm still here with you Now it's long days And empty chairs But I don't care I sit each night Beneath an endless sky Watching memories replay I stay every night Beneath this endless sky Till the stars.... fade away I remember falling And you pulling, pulling me to the grass We got lost in the heavens As eternity passed Now the stars don't change The way we did So I sit.... Sit each night Beneath an endless sky Watching memories replay I stay every night Beneath this endless sky Till the stars.... fade..... away
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    I'd love to comment, but it looks like you haven't really participated in the forums other than to introduce yourself and post your own music. Also, I don't see any lyrics and I can only understand about half of them.
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    Hello! This is a new song I'm playing with. It came together pretty quickly -- I threw this recording together this evening. Any comments/suggestions/critiques are welcome! (Why Do I) Care What You Think It doesn’t matter if you know me Don’t say a word, pretend you can’t see I glared at you but didn’t see you And now you think I’m always angry. I didn’t mean it, had a bad day I didn’t know that I was staring I was frustrated at the things in my brain A hectic morning and a late day. I could tell you that I’m sorry, try to make amends Why do I care what you think? I don’t know you, you are not my friend Why do I care what you think? Why do I care? It’s not my problem but I’ll smile, anyway Next time I see you in the elevator Just to be sure that I don’t hurt you again Fragile stranger, just like me. I could tell you that I’m sorry, try to make amends (but) Why do I care what you think? I don’t know you, you are not my friend Why do I care what you think? Fragile stranger, I know how you feel, I never, meant to, hurt you I could tell you that I’m sorry, try to make amends (but) Why do I care what you think? I don’t know you, you are not my friend Why do I care what you think? Why do I care?
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    The Upside of Lonely Copyright © 2017 by L.C. Campbell V1 There’s an upside to lonely It seems to slow down time Hours never end And days drift slowly by When you give in to lonely It rises up inside Fills in all the spaces Where love used to reside Ch1 From the outside, looking in This ain’t no way to live But right now it gets me through So I’m going to hang onto The upside of lonely V2 Wrapped up in your memory There’s no need to play along Just going through the motions And always feeling wrong So I’m counting on lonely To fill me up inside To take up all the space Where love used to reside Ch From the outside, looking in This ain’t no way to live But right now it gets me through So I’m going to hang onto The upside of lonely Bridge Don’t want time to heal these wounds If healing means losing you Ch From the outside, looking in This ain’t no way to live But right now it gets me through So I’m going to hang onto The upside of lonely
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    Hello everybody, my name is Michael and I loved music ever since I can remember. Nowadays I even try to write it by myself - just as a hobby. I live in Germany near the danish border. Please excuse my poor english - I learn to use it more correctly day by day. I am an IT-professional / software developer, but back in my youth I already made music with a Commodore Amiga, a sound-digitizer, a very small audio mixer and two tape-decks. Then "career" came... A few years ago I started to learn playing the guitar and step-by-step I collected all these little things like a couple of microphones, an amplifier, an audio-capturing-device, a DAW etc. Now, being nearly able to use these utilities and to play some chords and picks on the guitar, I am looking for an entry in songwriting just to create my own stuff and to tell some of the stories that I'm thinking about. My musical tastes are from the singer/songwriter genre, names like Loreena McKennit, Tina Dico, Milow and yes, Ed Sheeran. And last but not least all these evergreens like Simon & Garfunkel, John Denver, Cat Stevens. I love these songs in which song content, music and emotion go together and make me feel like I experienced the story be myself. In my own songs I am currently working on issues like merging song structure, song content and emotion - how to arrange a song to make it interesting. And of course I often try to use the english language correctly. See you...
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    Hi All, My name is Jeff Jacobs. I am a folk/country/pop songwriter from NYC. I've had several of my songs synced on network television shows. Check out my work here: www.soundcloud.com/jeffjacobsmusic/sets/jeff-jacobs-songs. my website is here: www.JeffJacobsMusic.com I'm very excited to be on this forum, connecting with very talented songwriters, and learning valuable music industry skills. Keep writing! Jeff
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    I have a poem published in the new issue of Poet Lore (see attached image).
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    **** I DID A LITTLE WORK ON THIS EARLIER - ADDED SOME EXTRA INSTRUMENTATION AND BASS (FOR STEVE). I HAVEN'T RE-RECORDED THE VOCALS YET, BUT INTEND TO DO THAT NEXT AT SOME POINT THIS WEEK. I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY COMMENTS ON THE NEW MIX AND EXTRA INSTRUMENTATION... CHEERS THE NEW MIX IS FURTHER DOWN THE PAGE - WILL KEEP THE ORIGINAL HERE, IF ANYONE WANTS TO HEAR THE DIFFERENCE **** Hi all - this track is composed using the new Output Analog Strings and drums by Battery 4 (not really happy with them listening back). I will be adding more instrumentation and harmonies, but just looking for opinions so far. It is deliberate that I have kept the same pattern going throughout with slight changes. (Once I had got this far, I thought it was sounding like something else - if you have heard Dream To Sleep by H2O or Something Good by Paul Haig - you may think it sounds familiar!!! ) Hope you like... https://soundcloud.com/moodman-1/i-know-15042017-2115/s-pYc2E I KNOW (music/lyrics by Richard Tracey) If there was a little moment For me to be by myself Then I would take it Every once in a while If there was a little time That I could put aside for me Then I know I would be A better person for it I know I know If there was a little high To go with all of the lows Then I know I could See the clearing from the trees I know I know If there was a little feeling In amongst all the pain Then I know I'd live The life I'd want for me I know I know All the little things that make me feel this way All the little things that I need to do today I know I know I know
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    I wrote the lyrics to this, this morning.. Did the track in about an hour... Really want to finish it I have "Green Light" by Lorde stuck in my head.. And other various songs and such I've got this bit.. but I may need ideas for where to go next And any suggestions at all.. Thank you as always UPDATED: https://soundcloud.com/jennifer8169456/ill-be-there-with-chorus [Verse 1] I miss the oceans, I miss the skies Beautiful times that aren't mine Still, I hold them to my heart As they tear me apart (Hope's not so far away, hope's not so far) [Chorus] But if I had the chance to not look back Give up everything for time to last Then tell them I'll be there Let them stop and stare But if I had the chance to not look back Give up everything for time to last Then tell them I'll be there And that I still care [Verse 2] And if you find me in the waves I don't want to be saved Leave my shadow to the night Make me believe that I'm doing right I don't need the safety of the light [Chorus] But if I had the chance to not look back Give up everything for time to last Then tell them I'll be there Let them stop and stare But if I had the chance to not look back Give up everything for time to last Then tell them I'll be there And that I still care [Bridge] Pulled away and pushed in Time's thick and time's thin Held down and held up I was away my old skin Pulled away and pushed in Time's thick and time's thin Held down and held up I wash away my old skin [Chorus] But if I had the chance to not look back Give up everything for time to last Then tell them I'll be there Let them stop and stare But if I had the chance to not look back Give up everything for time to last Then tell them I'll be there And that I still care
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    About three years ago, I announced that I'd be doing a collaboration with J.L.Smith, who is one of my musical idols. I had no idea at the time it would take so long to finish. I've posted very early versions here, but here is the first "final" mix. It's written in 13 edo (13 notes per octave). The initial programming was done in Orion 8.6. Most sound design and all mixing and mastering was done in Reaper.
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    I still stand by what I said, but let me explain myself so I don't seem ill-considered... I am 21 years old, and people among my age group have begun to abuse things like Gofundme and all those things.. Just yesterday I saw someone asking for money so they could learn to scuba dive. This may not be the same situation for artistry, but it's similar.. Last year I wanted to buy a new radio for my car. My first instinct wasn't to make a gofundme and ask people to give me money. no, I checked the job listings and I got myself a job and paid for my own radio. maybe it's how I was raised.. but I believe, if you work for something, then you deserve what you get. and if you don't work hard, then well, expect as much back as you put in. Now, say the fundraiser is for something authentic and the person genuinely needs assistance, then that is acceptable in my eyes.. But still, the person needs to do their part to make the donations worthwhile. Again, this is all just my opinion and I didn't mean for it to come off snobby or anything. But seeing people ask for donations for luxury things... just grinds my gears!
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    A song I came up with. The melody is a bit too high for me but I liked it so decided to try and sing it as best I could! Just looking for comments about the songwriting/lyrics/memorability/flow etc. thanks Lyrics: Seven hours and still no callI wait for youI been out in the freezing coldJust like I doNow you say you'll live without meoh baby, you ain't go a clueSo I'll take all my love awayand watch what you doI heard you've been running roundasking after my nameTurns out when I kicked you outLife just wasn't the sameYou really gonna stand there cryingstop whining, I ain't got the timeI did everything you asked and trust me I'm doing fineYou're going home on your ownCause I lost your number When I deleted it from my phoneGoodbye, it's better than revengeI don't want any part of your loveand I sure don't miss your friendsif you wanna see me cry, then you're wasting your time'cause goodbye, it's better than revengeLetters and Old photographsyou posted right to my dooryou really think those little thingswould leave me wanting you moreI don't want to think about youno thank you, what's it going to takeyou'll live in my memories in the past you will stayYou're getting drunk on your owncause you're not the one I call when I pick up my phone[chorus]Heartbreak only leads to one thing (Revenge)And heartbreak only leaves you one thing (Revenge)But I'm not that bitter, So I won't do the sameBecause revenge is for heartbreakersbut I'm better than revenge[Chorus
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    So for those of you who have been on this forum for some time, this is my third song and am exploring yet another genre. Its more "pop"ish, with a hint of Ed Sheeran, but also a nice bass line that gives it a dance-y vibe! Would love critique of the song as a whole!
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    A composition begun 30+ years ago that morphed into many different ideas, most purged & lost. This is the 1st 'final' recording now that it is 98% set in stone. I thought it suited the theme of rain well, so that's the visual pairing here. Just finished the video
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    I'm going to try to keep this as short as possible. I think there are 4 key events in my life that have guided my musical journey. The first event was when I was really little and watched a show on TV that had the Bay City Rollers playing … probably lip syncing. Women were just rushing up on stage the whole time. I remember thinking "Man, those ladies really like what they are doing." Of course at the time I was unaware of why exactly they were rushing the stage. I purely thought it was because they liked the music. So shortly after that I asked for my first guitar for Christmas. Some few years later after taking lessons and whatnot I kind of started slumping and falling out of guitar a little, probably due to my small hands making it harder. Until I heard the second event … Eruption by Van Halen. I got chills the first time I heard it and a plethora of times after that. It really made me jump head first into learning the guitar and from that point on about 99% of what I learned were Van Halen songs. I kept on that path almost all the way through college. The third event happened close to the time I heard Eruption but didn't realize it's affect on me until some years later. In 7th grade my choir teacher told me I should probably look to do another elective as I didn't have a good singing voice and she wondered if I was a bit tone deaf. At the time I was a little bummed but figured I'd just keep going with the guitar. Various times after that the idea of me singing would pop up and I would immediately think "No way. I suck." Thanks teacher. That little nugget of education stayed with me well after the fourth event and only subsided in the past few years. But the fourth event was when I learned I could record songs on my computer, for free, using Garageband. I was worried because I knew I couldn't sing, but I also didn't have drums or a bass so I figured I'd wing all of it. Which I did. While my vocals aren't great, they are much better than I thought they were and suffice to get the point across so I've come to accept my vocals as they are. In a nutshell that's it. Those 4 things have kept me going. Even the negative event has helped me in life as now whenever someone tells me I can't, or shouldn't do something because I'm not good enough, I take it as a challenge with the goal to prove them wrong. As far as songwriting only goes, I've always done it. I recall my first song "Tone of Black" and still have those lyrics on paper somewhere. They really suck but do rhyme in some spots. In first grade I also wrote a poem "Little Things" which was published in a District-wide book of poetry. The beauty is I got my own page and a nice large illustration of a dragon on the opposite page. When I look back at that, I wonder what I was thinking when I went and crossed it all out in third grade throwing a hissy-fit about something or other. Probably about not eating my dinner or getting in trouble for cussing.
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    Hey all, I'd appreciate feedback on this one. Thanks in advance. Ferry Drowsy ones and sleepy eyed Music and lyrics by Ferry Colyer Drowsy ones and sleepy eyed Make up some time, leave your beds tonight It's dark outside and it's a windy night perfect conditions to contemplate your life Here's a wake up call for you now the stars arise and the moon it draws you into its magic this time Lonely ones and teary eyed There's a band at your beds tonight they play like fire, they play like dynamite a perfect rendition to let your souls ignite Here's a wake up call for you now the stars arise and the moon it draws you into its magic this time Could you just hold me I'm willing to be a part of you Let's form a new country you'd be a part of me too Lonely ones... Here's a wake up call for you the stars are bright and the moon it draws you into its magic this time Here's a wake up call for you ste stars are bright and the moon it draws you into its magic this time
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    I think the difference is, getting the youth of today to hear and see what we had growing up. There are a lot more 'kids' getting into older bands and music, especially in the UK. You see them at concerts and our Top 100 albums not long ago were full of old albums, not anything new. This is because people are buying or streaming albums and they have re-entered the charts. That shows how the change is probably there and growing. The problem is the record companies and the radio stations/TV stations who constantly tell us who we should listen to or like. Yes, we had that to a degree years back, but not to the extent as we see now. I can see a change coming in the way we experience music and films. It has to change, or we will get to the stage where people won't do it if there is no way of making money. A hobby doesn't pay if it is your main source of income. There will be deals and tie-ins coming that will make it worth your while purchasing music and films again, even if it is digital still. The uptake in vinyl has taken the music industry by surprise, so it might give them the kick up the butt they need.
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    Hello fellow music lovers. My name is Verna and am 70 y.o. My birthday wish was to learn to play the guitar. I started about a year ago and am learning by using YouTube and other great sites on the web. This site seemed like it will help me on my musical journey.
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    Hi Ken - welcome to the site. This has a nice U2 feel to it - especially the verses - and I like that you don't try and sound like Bono, as that would be too much. It sounds like the beginnings of what could be a really good song, but difficult to critique a rough demo as it is just an idea. The idea is good, although some of the lyrics sound too cliche, which is fine in moderation, but most of the song is built like that. I know it was mentioned above about the lyrics and I agree, I would try and change it up a bit so that they flow really well and even trying out different words, might help with adding some interest to the listener, as I felt I had read and heard those lyrics a hundred times or more (another cliche). Now, I am not having a dig at you, so please don't think that. Most members on here believe in being honest to help others perfect or hone their writing and I have the same comments given to me on my tracks and I know they were right. Now the music... I really liked what you had there and I think it would be a very good track once fully produced with a bit more added and going on. If you wanted to take this out of rough demo, I would like to the sounds and producetion on U2's One song, as this has a similar feel to it. It might help you work out where to take this track. The vocals sounded like a nice idea, but I agree about the 'yeas', I think they date a song and should be resigned to the past Oberqll, I liked it and it was a very good start. Some really nice guitar playing, which when mixed should be higher in the mix and the drums need a bit more variety and dynamics. Cheers Richard
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    Even though the recording is pretty bad, I can still hear what might be a pretty good song. What weakens it substantially for me are the changes in point of view from verses to choruses, and even within the choruses themselves. In the verses you're consistently singing about him by using the pronoun "he," then in the first part of the chorus you're singing to him using the pronoun "you," but then in the second half of the chorus you sing about him again using "and away he goes again." For me, these shifts in p.o.v. do not work well. P.S. The recording would sound a lot better if the audio was centered. Right now the guitar and vocal are panned to the right with just white noise on the left side.
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    Hi all - haven't managed to get on much lately due to work and family commitments, but I started this a couple of weeks ago and meant to have had it finished by now, but can't find the time to continue with it. I am just looking for an overall feel from everyone to see whether the track seems to be working so far. The vocals are a temp at the moment just so I could get a feel for them. The lyrics were something I wrote for one of ImKen's tracks, but felt they worked with this piece. The drums were played by me for a change as I wanted something simple. The instrumental part is nowhere near finished instruments wise, but does it sound better with less and then build it up? What about the vocal harmonies? Any input would be much appreciated as it may give me the kick up the butt to get on with it. Anyway, thanks for listening and I am going to try and devote some time over the weekend to have a listen to the stuff you have all been posting. Cheers Richard https://soundcloud.com/moodman-1/guiding-light-25032017-2327/s-AVXXr
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    Welcome Patty.
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    I think this is a powerful statement. Giving it your all fits the "if you do it right" part of the hook. It serves to counterbalance the abandonment theme, which I think is so honest but can hijack the song if you don't balance it out some. A bridge could be a good place to make the point about giving it your all. In terms of how you respond to feedback, that's up to you. You've gotten a lot of response pretty quickly so it can be more efficient to combine it like you did. I find that the most important thing is to acknowledge the feedback in some way so folks know you are receptive to it, which you clearly are . ~T
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    I think you've got a great idea here to build on. HoboSage's idea about changing the circumstances in each verse makes sense to tell a more interesting story--somewhat like the Patty Loveless song "How Can I Help You Say Goodbye" in which the first verse is about moving away from a best friend and final verse is the mother passing away. Your statement above about the friendships not ending but just changing could add some nuance to the chorus. The phrases "they leave you behind" and "start over again" are pretty stark statements that may be exactly what you want to convey, but if not, then its worth considering how to soften that a bit. I think your title/hook is a great testament to friendship. Good stuff to build on. ~T
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    started this up today felt like recording my own sounds let me know what you think and share any ideas you may have please
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    Thanks for all the responses!! I'm mostly gonna watch you guys hammer it out, as you're generally more up to speed on this than I am. But a couple things do cross my mind.... The problem of begging money for luxuries may be self-solving: most donors wouldn't donate to that anyway. Whether a high nose : signal ratio has caused a mass exodus from those sites is another thing I have no idea about. As to personal causes, I doubt it matters whether it's personal to the beggar, but whether it's personal to the donor in some way. That's just human nature, it's how charity works, and it's how business works. On age: RAMMS+EIN were all mid-30s to early 40s when they started out. Plus middle-agers today do buy new music. Being middle-aged still won't help, but it does offer a peer-audience which is more affluent than teens. Age as a sole (or even a major) viability criterion is the old-school obsolete big-label teens-only rip-off-the-naive-kids biz. It's not so much that biz anymore. On that "note", wouldn't it be great if Patreon and SellABand, et al, became the replacement for those old talent scouts and development deals from the big labels? (Just as iTunes et al have become distro sites.) It seems they'd be "art for the people, chosen by the people". No middlemen. No bean-counters.
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    I don't like standard crowdfunding sites for much that reason. Patreon is targeted at artists, writers, musicians etc. The idea is not to ask for donations, it is to ask for patronage, something for something. Additionally I would point out a couple of points worth considering: 48 is old to be breaking in the pop, or any music scene, though far from impossible. Ask Seasick Steve. Not a huge international star but he has a viable career from it. He isn't alone. That aside, people can make livings from good music... as long as they have a realistic expectation, surely that is the key? Making sure people have a realistic expectation. Take me, I am 50, I plan to release an album. I am under no illusions that fame awaits, indeed I would not welcome you for it. My goal is to make good music and to make enough money from the album, gigs and other income related to my music so that my music pays for itself and enables the next album to be recorded in a better studio, for me to play better venues. That said, were my dream to be on a national stage, releasing music... why not? If my music is good enough and I am innovative enough in my marketing I see no reason why I wouldn't attract an audience big enough for me to make a modest living from it. True, there are uncertainties, but aiming to make enough to live on depends on a lot of hard work, being prepared to fail, a lot, and making contacts that believe in you... amongst other things. Is it likely I could become a top line star? No. Very, very unlikely... even if I was not 50. Yet again I can't rip someone down for wanting to aim that high. I would try and make sure they had the tools to maximise their chances on one hand and the sure fire knowledge that they have a better chance of winning the lottery. Much less chance without said knowledge. it doesn't make me the purveyor of dreams, but I like to think that I am honest from an informed perspective. I don't sugar coat things, but neither am I a defeatist. One other aspect of the teenager abuse of crowdfunding asking for donations... going beyond the something for something perspective.... artists working on decent ethics ask for money upfront, a type of presales. Pay me a reduced up front cost and I will send you a signed CD and a bunch of other stuff, do a Skype gig, even a living room gig, a ton of other stuff... it is work, just like any other. Songstuff accepts donations, but believe me, it isn't money for nothing. Far, far from it. We don't use crowdfunding as such. Will people judge Songstuff because of it? Some yes. But we were taken for granted by many for a long time despite being free, despite never pushing for a donation until very recently. You are of course right Jenn, some people do abuse the system, some do want something for nothing, some do take the money and run, but I hope people can tell the difference, people can judge what is worthy. I remember years ago someone selling a used polythene bag on eBay. It sold. It was pathetic. Many were convinced the end of the world was nigh, or at least the end of eBay was foretold. Yet eBay is alive and well and being used by many buyers and sellers. So in one way you are right, people will stop funding lazy people, but if you work hard, are seen to work hard and more than earn your donations through graft and delivering value, then just like Songstuff, people will want to support you.
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    John, thx!! I will check her page extensively tonight. I actually have an old friend who is a big-time sound engineer, and is hanging his shingle again and offering a free-upfront recording deal for points later. Can't beat it. But I wouldn't go to him with this until I really have something worthwhile. Right now we chat about computer problems and such.
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    You have a wonderful voice. I hurt just thinking about trying to sing that high. I can hear a possible call and answer to augment/offset the higher voice, like another person coming in here and there with a lower voice or even some kind of sfx or hook. That's just me. Disclaimer- Anything I say is only my opinion and should not be held against me I love the uniqueness of your voice. I might work with the mix a little more. I understand it was a quick take and you aren't done with it. There are probably a lot of things you could do, directions you could go with this. It's really up to you. Where you sing " I am frustrated at the things in my brain". It seemed slightly crowded to me. Removing "the" from it wouldn't change the meaning, and this can apply to a lot of sentences in lyrics. Removing "the" doesn't usually change the meaning....says he who flunked english class.
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    Secret Message © Ben Burton April, 2017 Dropped in on Beggar's Banquet for some tea cakes A smell of hashish meant the chef was stoned Dear Doctor, help, if they start serving raw steak Or sushi overcooked and filled with bones The cover charge is stiff, but after entry Mixed drinks at fifty pence, you'll let it loose The barkeep offers sympathy aplenty Just jump off of his cloud, no parachute Forget all expectations Turn that forty-five around Could be a secret message Don't let Charlie bang you down If he hears a secret message Hold your breath, it's over now Turn up the jukebox, Jigsaw Puzzle's playing With Satan in the lyrics, listen close For Mick becomes a stray cat when he's ailing A prodigal who street fights holy ghosts Forget all expectations Turn that forty-five around Could be a secret message Don't let Charlie bang you down If he hears a secret message Hold your breath, it's over now
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    Always very good advice. Circumstances may change from generation to generation, but I agree. A sustained, individualized drive to succeed, accompanied by a healthy level of self confidence, is mandatory in anyone seriously pursuing success in the music/entertainment business.
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    Justin, It is hard for me to decide if the second version is better or worse. The vocals sound compressed now. They sound "the same" as the music bed. Not in a good way, I think. The vocals "ring" in the first version... the clarity of tone in your singing and in Janice's wonderful work shines like diamonds. It is so clear it feels "cool" in color. The vocal compliments, but stands apart from the bed in the first version, Justin. In my humble opinion, that is what makes the first version magical. I have been studying sound a lot lately, from a layman's point of view. I hope you will accept the notion that, despite my layman's perspective, my studies have been purposeful and intense. Among other ideas I find I believe in is this: good mixing, through the decades, has often been a matter of... well, perhaps not outright chance, but of serendipity, to be sure. The end result was often special NOT because of the decisions the engineer/producer made intentionally, but because of one's he or she made that they gave little or no conscious thought to at all. Something you did, or left unchanged, on that first mix made it stand out and sparkle. Whatever it was that you did is missing from the second version. Others may argue for the second version... saying it has a certain homogeneous quality. It does. The second version has an all over sameness... a "blended" sound that at first blush may speak to it's being a "better" mix over all... but not for me. When I listened to the first version, even multiple times, there was magic. There is no magic in the second version, for me. Lastly, of all the comments on other aspects of the song besides the mix, the one that struck me the most was David's remark concerning the presence of a harmony in a song that seems to be the expression of the thoughts and feelings of a single man. On the level of the absolute, I am forced to agree with Dave. However, I find that I do not care a whit. One of the things I did today was go back and just listen to the first version... I find that I am able to parse the song fully. The harmony does not interfere with the message. And my mind is able to create a number of scenarios that would account for the presence of a female voice in the thoughts of the man singing lead. Is it, after all, not just so in real life, my friend? I readily admit that the thoughts and feelings of my wife (representing, in this instance, a female counterpart in my world) are ever present in my own thinking. My sincere apologies if this is not what you wanted to hear. Irregardless of which version you go with, the song is special.
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    I like it! What a great bed (foundation).Could be used as a cool intro as well. I think you could work it into any style of music, the sky's the limit on this one! Hip Hop, Pop, Alt or Hard Rock. Very Cool.
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    Sorry for the delay in responding, I didn't want to bump the thread until I had a new mix to offer. Pretty much all feedback has been implemented, I removed the low pass filter and added a low velocity stick snare sample to thicken that up, I did some EQ to the bass/kick to give each their own space (and raised the bass quite a bit in some lost low notes), I lowered the vocals some (both lead and backing) which in turn forced me to lower the lead at the end. Is this mix finally done? Rob is right - redacted for now @JH Michaels - Thanks for the kind words, both issues you raised have hopefully been addressed. @RobAsh15 - Hopefully I didn't kill what you liked about the earlier version. @Simon Darveau - Lots adjusted per your advice, Simon. I'd love to see if you think this mix is more on track. @Mahesh - Thanks for the kind words and detailed feedback, Mahesh. The lead at the end was initially electric, but I didn't like it, so I recorded it again on acoustic. The switch didn't hit the spot, so I finally blended the two and I liked that much better. I wasn't able to change the tone there, but hopefully the volume change rubs off the tinniness you don't like. @ImKeN - Thanks Ken, I don't have the files handy now, but I'll pass along youtube links later. FWIW, I heeded your advice about the backing vox levels which were definitely too loud prior to the first chorus. @M57 - Thanks, Mark. I always look forward to your detailed thoughts. I must confess to being mildly disappointed because I thought that, of all my songs, this was the one that traversed some unexpected paths while still sounding cohesive and simple. As much as I completely understand the gist of your comment, I struggle to tell where you thought my chord choice stood out poorly. I presume that it is either the verse opener or the first chord of the PC, since those are the two maj7s. Would you mind elaborating some? Thanks. @HoboSage - Thanks for your feedback, Dave. I'll let you in on a secret: Janice's vocals weren't me selfishly accepting an act of generosity on her part, it was desperation. For much the same reasons you pointed out, my initial idea for this song was to be a 1+1 with very little layering, but my melody alone couldn't make the chorus pop. Changing it to a higher range was totally out of character. Janice really liked the song, so she offered to send me some harmonies to see if it would give the chorus the sparkle it lacked, and it was a total home run. Trust me when I tell that the piece leans a LOT more on her contributions than the final appears to indicate. Also, I've been listening to a lot of songs from "Live From Darryl's House" and they trade vocals between Hall and whoever the feature artist is, usually with no lyric or song reason for doing so. I've yet to hear one that I thought detracted from the piece overall, even in more intimate numbers like this. Long story short (too late!), I no longer share the concern about Janice entering a chorus about a lonely guy, but even if I did her vocals add far too much to consider changing anything now. Hopefully that makes sense. @bakerusc - Thanks! I love that opening key change as well, it gives me chills every time and it was the moment I knew the I was onto something. I'll add more later that details my unimpressive studio techniques. @outss - Thanks, the perc is clearer now and the vocals have come down. Thanks for the feedback. @Richard Tracey - Much appreciated, Richard. I still have to send you those drum samples, don't I?
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    Very interesting song... this kind of sound reminds of the work of a certain contemporary singer named Melanie Martinez (maybe you've heard of her?). As usual, your voice is the clincher Maybe it can be made to sound a little sharper against the music (there's a little bit of edge that this song can build up on... not sure whether it's the voice or the musical arrangement or both)? I also feel that a little more punch to the phrasing technique can take this song to a different level.
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    You have been playing guitar for about a year... and roughly how much practice do you put in during your average week? In general I would suggest two things in the early days: learn chords, and songs you are familiar with learn scales: major, minor and blues pentatonics. Then learn to play them in different keys / positions on the guitar. There are other scales but those 3 cover a load of songs. seperately look to learn 3 main time signatures: 4/4, 2/4 and 3/4. There are others, but those cover many many songs in learning time signatures you will learn about measures. You will learn how to count rhythms. Slow songs down so that you can play a song without breaking rhythm... i.e. Let the difficult bit to play set your tempo (speed of playing) while focusing on precision/accuracy. Once you can play it in time all the way through you can gradually speed it up to the right tempo. That said, I tend to practice 3 ways. As slow as needed (just outlined), as fast as I can (to improve speed of transitions), and lastly at the correct tempo. Separately I used to practice chord transitions, back and forth between two chords, then back and forth between another two... and so on, each time trying to get the transitions right while making sure every note that should sound does so nice and clearly. There's way more but it gets you started. Last point would be to have a set practice regimen, like 5 minutes on accuracy, 5 minutes on speed, 5 minutes on correct speed. Try that for chord transitions, then scales, then full songs, maybe focusing on a new song every couple of weeks. As you improve and your speed of learning improves you can start learning more songs. all the time add to your knowledge of chords, and things like picking techniques and finger style guitar techniques. use your ears, coupled with knowledge of the song, look at lyrics and chord transcriptions rather than full tab, maybe even video tutorials on YouTube to get started THEN revisit guitar tab and learn detailed versions of songs you already know how to play at a basic level. Otherwise you risk putting yourself off and taking the fun out of playing.
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    Whoa... super excited to see this list! Some I know of and some I don't. But will check them out in detail and revert with my observations. Thanks a lot! Oh... And I just loove Tracy Chapman.. been a while since I've listened to her songs. Will definitely go back there again
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    Sreyashi, some female voices I think are great are: Colby Caillat Eva Cassidy Sarah McLaughlin Linda Ronstadt Susan Tedeschi (blues) Alison Krauss Jo Dee Mesina Norah Jones Patsy Cline Tricia Yearwood Naomi and Wynonna Judd (the Judds) Natalie Merchant The Barlow Girls Christina Aguilera Tracey Chapman Amy Perry ( in the band called "Selah") Kathy Troccoli Martina McBride
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    Just wrote this song, supposed to be a sort of stripped down country blues song, maybe with a little bit of a janis joplin vibe though. Let me know what you think! You have a power over me you hate to use but can't let it be Anything you say, I'll do I any kind of way, I let you Hurt me , cause that's what you do cause when you hurt me, it hurts you too and you hate yourself, like no one else So your favorite thing is to hurt me come back just to desert me and my favorite thing is to let you Do it over, baby do Then at least we share this blue You tear yourself apart cutting through my heart God danm drunk on this pain all we know are these games So you left it there for me to find did her like you do my mind hurt me, cause that's what you do feels like home, all we ever knew misery, sure loves company So your favorite thing is to hurt me come back just to desert me and my favorite thing is to let you Do it over, baby do Then at least we share this blue You love me, baby don't you too much for my own danm good sometimes I wish I'd never met you Cause don't you just love to hurt me Come right back to desert me And don't I just love to let you Do it over, come on do it over, baby do At least we share this blue
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    They aren't considered a duet. Linda, Emmylou and Dolly just happens to be a harmonizing trio. They aren't current, but still great nonetheless.
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    I haven't heard this one but will check it out. I keep searching for good female voices to draw inspiration from Coming back to duets and specifically Dixie Chicks, I do like them a lot (though technically, it's a group) and happen to recall a song of Stevie Nicks that they had performed together with her - Landslide : I'm not sure if this is technically called a duet format, since they all basically sing together but still feature two different individuals/entities. Maybe you can enlighten me on the same
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    Lots of good stuff going on here! As Ken noted--great hook. I also like the less typical structure of the verses, including the longer pre-chorus. If I'm reading this correctly, then the beginning of the 2nd verse (above) is quite a bit different from the very pared down beginning of V1. Maybe the music would take care of what looks like very different meters, but I was struck by the minimalist lyrics at the start, which I like, but then it seemed to be a one-off, and did not repeat. This section (bridge?) didn't seem to fit or build on what the rest of the song was saying. "Loving to hurt" and "loving too much" just seem like different ideas to me. I wasn't sure if you were working on a play on words here that would tie back to the final chorus or had something else in mind. The rest of the lyrics really capture the mind games of this relationship and this section doesn't have the same punch, but just my opinion. I agree that a country vibe with less polished vocals would really sell the pain behind the lyrics. Good luck with it. ~T
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    It's super snappy. And I love it!
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    Peggy. Thank you princess. All that rain helps Stevie boy... Heres my Facebook link to it https://www.facebook.com/rudi.samborski.5 If there is a problem with the vid/vimeo Its on soundcloud (without video)
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    Sweet! It's not exactly my style so I must confess I'd probably have clicked away had this come on the radio.... but I'm so glad I stuck with it. Everything from the change at 1:40 on was totally on point, simply divine. It wasn't just the big movements, either, little things like the backing vox at 2:23 all added to a perfect sonic landscape. Great vocals as well during that part. You should be proud of this. Well done.
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    I'm now excited! I'm going off to challenge that Mathew feller....
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    I sent you an email. Generally it helps if you post what you have (SoundCloud, SoudClick, wherever) so people interested in collaboration can get an idea. Your chances are good - there are about 1,000 desperate lyricists yearning for a collaboration per one aspiring composer ;-) Bernd http://bernd-harmsen.com