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    I wasn't always into music deeply though I enjoyed its company. I remember picking up a guitar for the first time when I was 15 years old (being 24 now). Maybe that's when my interest in music increased and kept my teenage mind occupied. Being in India and coming from a middle-class background, my only source of international music back then was the radio. Every night at 9:00PM, the local radio would air the feed of Top40 with Ryan Seacrest or Casey Kasem and I used to fall asleep to it. The more I recall those nights, the more I realise how significant it has been for me to ever have my doors open to this wonderful world of music. Around the same time, I came across and heard 'Gravity' by John Mayer. That changed everything. I'm sure there is always one moment in life for every single person that proves to be monumental in deciding what the rest of their life is going to be. Listening to Gravity was mine. Never was I so moved with the words being sung and the music going with it. That's when my fascination with songwriting, making music, expressing was born. My frustration with my noob guitar playing skills further motivated me to write my own words and melodies. lol That's how it began. From there, I would try to find every opportunity to sing in front of an audience. Since I was in school, most of that would be singing competitions. I guess being part of those competitions really helped me gain confidence in myself to stand in front of an audience and perform. There was no stopping me from there. And then Songstuff & John happened. For those of you who know Derek Sivers is would also know that he was an active blogger/writer as well and was open to discussions with any person who would send him a mail. I did so, seeking music advice back in 2011. He said that the best way to get better at what you do is to share it with like minded people. He suggested I find communities online. And obviously, the first one to pop up was Songstuff. I joined Songstuff in Feb 2011 (I just checked, it marked my 6 years of Songstuff just yesterday) and I was quite the excited one. John noticed. I started getting involved with more things Songstuff and we started talking more about music and what not. Back then, I had a very basic phone with internet capabilities at the lowest. I had no computer, no equipment. In fact I had no room of mine either & was living in a room with my two brothers and my mom. But I had these songs. And John suggested I put an EP out with those songs. Now, note that I'd never performed anywhere but in school and college. I had no equipment, no money and quite evidently, no sense of challenge. And John says - "If that's where we've got to start from, then let's start". I did all I can to put some money together (saving lunch money, claiming that I needed lunch money from friends lol) and then went to a studio and recorded 5 songs and called it Beyond the Door. It was just one guitar (with barely average guitar playing) and my voice. But I did it. That's the point John had all along. Use what you've got and work with it. As if there was any other choice. I put the EP out online, sent it indie radio stations all over the globe (I did get my songs aired in a handful of radio stations and podcasts in the UK, US and Japan. I think that was super sweet of the people running the shows), got a 'music video' prepared with the help of my brother. A few people in the city took notice, invited me to perform at a few places for free. Two venue owners saw me there and offered me my very first paid gigs and on I went on my journey to become a full time musician. With John's direction always being there, I continued to stay active and build my music career while in college. As you would know how it is in India when it comes to parents pressuring you to pursue a more 'meaningful profession', I ploughed on as I finished my bachelor's degree in computer science. I worked for about a year and then made the decision to call it quits and pursue music full time. My parents were obviously against it but being stubborn, I did it anyways. John and other friends helped me to be smart about it. Being a singer-songwriter in India is not exactly a financially stable option lol I had to make sure that my education loans were still being taken care of as well that nothing changes in the financial equation I have with my parents. I wasn't a kid anymore. I did have a responsibility. It's been two years since I called it quits. Looks like things haven't gone to the shits yet lol I don't plan on it to. My parents came to a gig of mine a couple of months back. Their very first gig. After years of quarrel, fights, debates and what not, my dad on his way back said "I understand what he's doing now". He's not opposed my music or has shown distaste towards it ever since. In fact, it has been the opposite. Over the years, I've got to support some of the best bands in the country. I opened for Lucy Rose and Luke Sital-Singh when they came to India. I got to perform with Christian Galvez, one of the best Jazz musicians in the world which was a life time opportunity. There is a LONG way to go. And being a full time musician is a real struggle every single day. But it's all worth it! Every single bit. Years have passed and John has continued to mentor me in my career. He's been a greater friend and has helped me in the toughest of my days even when I was at a stage where I was 'hurting' myself. And it is such a mind-boggling thing for me to comprehend how someone on the other side of the world who has never met me in person has had so much selfless concern and passion in helping me. Well, helping people. I mean, this is what Songstuff is all about. It sounds like I'm exaggerating but believe me, John is probably THE biggest reason for any success I have earned and will ever earn in my music career. I try to remember that every day. Well, that's me.
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    It was lovely to finally meet John on a recent trip to Glasgow! (St Patricks day) It was a miserable day, Raining and gloomy, but we had a very pleasant couple of hours together, along with some other friends, drinking wine and consuming some rather good food in a splendid venue in Glasgow! I hope we can do this again one day mate! It was truly a lovely evening. And an incredible coincidence that we happened to be sporting the same hat! Cheers buddy!
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    How did you get started writing lyrics? I used to write poems when I was younger but I was always so active that it was on the back burner. I had got sick a few years back so I could not be as active as I wanted, I saw a song contest online and changed some poems into a song format. I started doing that as a hobby and liked it. I have been writing since 2014. I Bought books by Pat Pattinson and Due White and taught my self song formats. Do you play any instruments or sing? I can't carry a tune and play no instruments. My only instrument is my Ball point pen or pencil. Do you like to collaborate with other writers? Yes all of my complete songs are colaborations because I only do lyrics. I have met collaboration partners on song stuff, NSAI, sound cloud and at a songwriters group at my church. if you were to describe yourself as a writer, what would you say? I like to write stories and songs that capture real emotions. I write in country, Christian, Gospel as well s pop and rock genres. I still learning formats, but copy exsisting formats to help to learn what works. Working with other musicians has helped me learn too. What kind of lyrics do you write? Country, story type songs, Christian, Gospel or several types. Why do you write? What do you hope to achieve? I write with the hopes of one day an artist picking up one of my songs and having it be played on the radio. I do have one song that an artist wants to pick up, it is currently on hold until his 2017 album comes out. it is always fun to see a lyric come to life. What interests you when you write? Life stories, conversations, things we go through and sometimes silly things. if you could write a song for an artist, who would it be and why? Carrie underwood, because I like her story type songs and she is a great singer. What are your goals as a songwriter? To make songs that are commercial but can help somebody along the way. Do you have a favorite song? Many favorites The Dance by Garth brooks is my favorite ballad type. I tend to love the songs from when I was in high school the most. There are lots of songs I love. Of your own songs, do you have a favorite? Hand Up and Dancing on a memory, although Love May come late is the one that got picked up. Do you have a favorite situation or location when you write? At night on my porch, or at church they have music rooms with pianos and instruments, my cowriter meets me there sometimes. Has being a member of Songstuff been beneficial to you? Yes it has. I enjoy getting feedback from other artist and it has helped me learn song formats quicker. I have colabarated with a few members and that has been lots of fun.Song stuff has some talented artist from many different places and have learned from many of them. Why do you take part in lyrics challenges on Songstuff? I sometimes struggle with what to write about, that helps me to focus on one topic and helps me to grow. I like the challenges because they help me to write about things I may not have thought about on my own. If you were to offer any advice to your fellow songwriters, what would it be? Try to write something every day, even if it is just one line, if you get out of the habit of writing, it is hard to be creative. If someone really likes your work, what is the best way for them to keep up with your latest writings? Sound cloud, Broadjam, Reverb and for lyrics here. I am working on building a website soon.
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    I can ask for help here when I need it. I do need it. I need to know about keyboards, production, mixing etc. I need to ask because I can never find anything myself here. It may be because I am poor at navigating the site. I think its because the site is hard to navigate. Really both reasons are valid, because as a long standing member I ought to know my way around. But its also true that there are others like myself who cant find stuff as well. Writing articles. A long time ago I wrote some music articles for SS. It made me check all the things I had taken for granted. As a result I consolidated what I knew, corrected what I assumed & became more informed. I feel I can drop in at any time and listen to music I had never heard before. That's wonderful. Most of all, this is a proper community. Its a place to share of bit of ourselves.
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    I've been a member for like almost six years. I joined in 2011. I first started learning to record and edit my music at home in 2009. That one followed the other is not a coincidence. After much hard work, i was finally able to generate a full song production, beginning to end. On a scale of one to sucks it pretty much sucked, but it was a full song. I reached a point where I felt I wanted to hear real opinions on the songs I was making, before they were finished. I initially didn't give much thought as to whether I wanted to hear from listeners or musicians. I just went looking for places to be heard and talked about. Do you like it? Hate it? If so why? ...for either point of view. I went looking... and found this place. A venue where musicians of all calibers and styles come to listen to original songs (and even a few covers...!...) and song ideas... to offer critique, get critique, and otherwise generally live and discuss all things music. Signing up was a given. To say I am glad I joined is an overwhelming understatement. Over the intervening time since I joined, I have posted my own song offerings perhaps 13, 14, maybe 15 times. Not every song I have worked on, but most of them, and all of my most important offerings for sure. The commentary I have received from so many wonderfully talented, intelligent, and conversationally gifted members here has contributed directly and substantially to the quality of my work. ...I am free to post anything, to go far afield and experiment. And I have. I have often reworked songs after hearing the comments on them here. My work is better, and my collaborations are more rewarding because of what I have allowed the fine core group of members here to contribute to my musical knowledge and experience via their amazing input on my work. I have also enjoyed listening to the work of others, and commenting on it. Participation here is easy, positively encouraged, and welcome. As a member in good standing here, I feel I am an acknowledged part of the community, with a reputation that reflects my own contribution to the site. And this is a place where achieving that status feels good. Feels meaningful. I think this is so in large part because the people who are members here are almost all serious amateur, semi-professional and even a few professional MUSICIANS. Not visual artists. Not promoters. Not marketers or advertisers... although many of them can and are all of these things and more... but MUSICIANS. And we all talk, and share, and grow here, together. Newbies, and beginning lyricists, singers and players will be made to quickly feel welcome here. In a word? There is simply no other web site like this on the net.
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    Hi everyone, been a while. This song has always been one of my favorites, but I've known for some time that I didn't nail the mix (regrettably, not before uploading this terrible version to Youtube.) I'm confident I've finally got the thing moving in the right direction, but have some lingering questions I was hoping to get some feedback on. There was way too much reverb on the earlier percussion, so I blended in some dry samples to bring it more into the room. Have I sufficiently done so? The bass had to come way up, is it on target now? Any missing notes? Did I thin out the opening acoustic too much? Both vocals were way too up front and have been pushed back with reverb/eq. Do they sit right in the mix now? Any other feedback is welcome. Some of you may recognize Janice Ho's lovely vocals, which carry the song. I can't thank her enough. EDIT: A mix update [has been removed]. A starlit veranda A table for two It's easy to pretend I'm still here with you Now it's long days And empty chairs But I don't care I sit each night Beneath an endless sky Watching memories replay I stay every night Beneath this endless sky Till the stars.... fade away I remember falling And you pulling, pulling me to the grass We got lost in the heavens As eternity passed Now the stars don't change The way we did So I sit.... Sit each night Beneath an endless sky Watching memories replay I stay every night Beneath this endless sky Till the stars.... fade..... away
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    Made a video from some royalty free footage
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    From the album My Artwork

    My cat Jessie
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    From the album My Artwork

    3 heads of David Bowie through the years
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    I play guitar, and I think I'm a solid player. But, I've been playing for decades. I also don't play guitar in all my stuff - not even close to it. A guitar is just a tool to make music, and there are a lot of such tools. You get little sympathy from me, and here's why. There are zillions of people right now all over the world making damn good music would don't play ANY traditional musical instrument worth a damn at all. Let me say that again so it sinks in. There are zillions of people right now all over the world making damn good music would don't play ANY traditional musical instrument worth a damn at all. With the technology available today, you don't have to play a musical instrument to make good music. The technology IS a musical instrument, and an incredibly powerful and versatile one. Can't play a guitar well enough to make good music? Then make good music using something ELSE. Get a DAW with a library of sounds and get to work. I can assure you that getting into the music tech to make music is tons easier than learning and practicing barre chords or finger picking to the point where you sound good doing it - and then there's the further learning curve of trying to get good audio recordings of your guitar playing. You say you have these "visions" for your songs . . . this one is a country tune . . . that one is a rocker? Where have your musical visions gotten you except still stuck on square one? They aren't visions. They're mirages. Get the tech, start making music and go where it takes you. The clock is ticking. It's time to, literally, "get with the program."
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    A composition begun 30+ years ago that morphed into many different ideas, most purged & lost. This is the 1st 'final' recording now that it is 98% set in stone. I thought it suited the theme of rain well, so that's the visual pairing here. Just finished the video
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    Here's something of a tribute to John and Songstuff who've helped me in becoming the musician I am today. The other day, I was having those routine meetings with John that's been going on for 6 years ( besides the fact that every one of them feel like so lol ) talking about my career, the upcoming gigs, EP plans and of course the Songstuff stuff as well. And I realised how normal it has become for me that a Scottish man who I've never even met has become a super important part of my every day life. So I thought it'd be something interesting to talk about in a vlog.
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    As it happens, I struggle with both anxiety and depression... which is very strange for someone who is naturally optimistic, positive, and upbeat. It comes in waves and tides, occasionally floods, though sometimes it is just a puddle on a sunny day. I am also a carer for someone with bipolar type 2 and anxiety, and have been for 25 years. Music, and specifically song writing has long been my therapy, my vent, my friend. I don't tend to express my depressive side much, in conversation or in song, although I have written about depression a couple of times. I tried at least to make the songs thought provoking rather than a personal gripe. Song writing is therapeutic because it allows me to transport myself, to shift my world perspective, to think about something other than my problems. That is why it is invaluable. I deliberately chose not to exercise my own demons in song because I do not want to be defined by an illness, any more than I want to be defined by problems with my back. They are part of me, but only part. I manage both using mindfulness meditation, something I first encounter 15 years ago as a method to cope with chronic pain. I soon applied it to anxiety and later depression. Songwriters are more likely to suffer from depression and anxiety. Yet it need not be their biggest influence. Yes, they do write about sadness a lot, but that is at least partly due to listeners. Listeners use music as therapy. They use it to help them through hard times. While they do use music to enjoy themselves, music their requirement from upbeat music is simpler. The themes if upbeat songs more readily feel cheesy, over used, more one-dimensional... Sad songs allow for the exploration of a wider range of emotions, much more nuance. As such it. Is easier to write a sad song that feels pertinent, poignant and original. Even when the topic is well explored, if the emotion of the song is honest, authentic, unflinching.... it connects. Song writing is largely about connection. Writers and listeners want to connect. They both want to feel understood. They want to feel connected even when isolated. They don't want to be alone. Listeners, particularly, want to find songs that express how they feel, what they want. They want songs to challenge them, and songs that represent them. Even when immersed in great sadness, they want to find hope. Often that hope is the knowledge of connection. I think that is why so many songs are sad or about sadness. To write in a way that connects people, writers need to be insightful, to be thoughtful. Experience teaches us that being thoughtful, you are more likely to suffer from depression and anxiety. More likely to dwell on and wrestle with emotion. It serves us well when writing about. I don't see myself as sad. It is part of me, not all of me. Rob mentioned empathetic song writing. Empathy is certainly an important aspect of song writing. Willingly or not, we are the world's therapists, not just our own.
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    The Upside of Lonely Copyright © 2017 by L.C. Campbell V1 There’s an upside to lonely It seems to slow down time Hours never end And days drift slowly by When you give in to lonely It rises up inside Fills in all the spaces Where love used to reside Ch1 From the outside, looking in This ain’t no way to live But right now it gets me through So I’m going to hang onto The upside of lonely V2 Wrapped up in your memory There’s no need to play along Just going through the motions And always feeling wrong So I’m counting on lonely To fill me up inside To take up all the space Where love used to reside Ch From the outside, looking in This ain’t no way to live But right now it gets me through So I’m going to hang onto The upside of lonely Bridge Don’t want time to heal these wounds If healing means losing you Ch From the outside, looking in This ain’t no way to live But right now it gets me through So I’m going to hang onto The upside of lonely
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    Hi Gang We are re-launching lyrics challenges, so it might take a little time to get the numbers of members taking part to a good level.... Please invite other members and non-members you think might enjoy a regular lyrics writing challenge! The purpose of these lyrics challenges is not just fun. They are intended to expand experience, building lyrics skills and understanding, and to help each writer to make contact and collaborate with other writers. The first challenge is something many songwriters struggle with. Being positive without being too cheesey! The Challenge The first week long challenge is to write an upbeat song about or related to the season "spring". Try and reflect the feeling of spring in your write. The challenge will last 7 days, from draft to finished work. You will first post a draft in reply to this topic. Your wok will then be critiqued by other participating members. After 7 days, you will then be asked to post your finished work as a topic with an attached poll, asking specific questions (we can help you create these topics), labelled "Challenge Spring Lyrics: Your Title" within this challenge board. Post your work as soon as possible as replies to this topic. Discussion of the lyrics is an important aspect of the challenge. Expect frank and honest critique from other members, and remember, this is primarily a personal challenge. When we run a poll for each finished set of finished lyrics it is to inform you and to help you grow. So please, write your lyrics, post them as replies and then take part in the analysis and development of your own and other member's lyrics. Have fun! Cheers John
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    Wow...good topic. I've always been interested in music, in singing, playing guitar and drums...(I sang "Country Roads" in my Vacation Bible School class to inconclusive reviews) and broke dozens of drum sticks by beating them against anything I could find. Unfortunately, to say that my mom and step-dad were unsupportive would be like saying the ocean is a small pond. Eventually, after a few years I gave in to "what was expected" and pursued a more conventional track and "rewarding" (pardon me while I yawn) career. Fast forward 45 years, then something truly magical happened. Out of nowhere I got a call from a private eye who was commissioned by my biological father to find me. He and my mom divorced when I was three and he had been trying to find me as I moved around the country over the years. I was skeptical of course, but he did provide convincing evidence. When we met, it freaked my wife completely out because we were virtually carbon copies of each other. Same build, mannerisms, hair (he had much less than me...yikes!) I found out that he had played in a band called Southern Comfort for many, many years as a drummer, and also my brother D (who I met for the first time then as well) is an accomplished bass and guitar player. So I picked up a guitar again. I really had my doubts when I started playing again, and had no confidence that I could even write a song but he kept telling me "goddam boy, it's in your genes, don't let no one tell you no different. Do what's inside and t'hell with 'em." and that's where I started writing my own songs. I looked around for some time trying to find somewhere to get more feedback on what I was writing and then I stumbled into Songstuff and the great group here. And I've never regretted it. Thanks John for putting together this site, and all you folks who write, perform, and produce music that take the time to critique and help. ~ JH
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    Hi Sreyashi Good topic. For me it has always been there. Making music was and is, as essential as breathing. Just like breathing it happens automatically, my default setting. As a kid my mum sang opera with the Scottish National Opera and the BBC, and she taught piano. So at 4 I started learning the piano. Singing was always there, so I am not sure when that started! After seeing Yehudi Menuhin on TV I was determined to learn to play like that, so at 7 I started learning how to play he violin. My mother rolled my sisters and I out to perform at social events, and I picked up the performance bug there, although even at 7 I was already performing through clubs etc. Although I kept playing both piano and violin, over the years my interest became focused on how music was composed and arranged. I started to learn other instruments so that I could understand them, and How they all worked together. Not only that, it was a challenge and it was fun. I sang with a choir and took part in the odd competition, I started to learn how to play drums and played in a competition pipe band. In our grade we won national and world titles. I learned how to play the bagpipes and played in another pipe band. All along I tried every instrument I could get my hands on, bugle, trumpet, clarinet, viola, cello... I tortured them all lol I am not sure exactly when I started writing. I know I wrote lyrics, and I know I wrote music from a very young age, but writing full songs, I am not sure? 12? 13? When I was maybe 14 or 15 I took up the guitar. My world transformed. Until that point, unless writing my own melodies, I had worked almost exclusively with the notes written by someone else, represented on a manuscript, with me interpreting and performing those notes. When I started playing the guitar I stepped away into improvisation, and playing purely by ear. I remember working on mainly rock music with some folk thrown in for good measure. Smoke on the Water by Deep Purple was many a guitarist's first notes. I remember working out Stairway To Heaven, note by note, and playing it on a terrible acoustic with a ridiculously high action. My guitar became my main instrument, saving for an electric guitar, exploring blues, heavy rock and heavy metal, funk, jazz, folk... just music every day. Soon I was learning bass guitar, mandolin, even didgeridoo! lol learning circular breathing for that wax a challenge believe me! I started playing in bands, people I knew through school, playing school gigs etc. Good fun at the time, but also good experience. My sisters both played and sang. My eldest sister sang in choirs, was a concert pianist who took part in pretty prestigious competitions. My other sister was always more interested in pop culture, Elton John being on of her favourites. Both sisters would duet on piano and singing. They were certainly an influence and through them I experienced pop and Rick music much earlier than I would have as a single child. Similarly, I had an aunt and uncle who loved music. In the 60s my uncle had become a huge Dylan fan. He used to go to gigs in and around London and record them on his 4 track recorder. The earliest Hendrix gigs, The Who, Yardbirds etc. He even had a recording of a jam between Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison lol He has so many rare recordings, in many cases the only recordings of events and gigs in the late 60s and 70s Freak scene, mainly in London and the South of England, but elsewhere too. I am not sure exactly when they started going to festivals and gigs in the USA. Nowadays they still travel to gigs all over the UK and the odd Dylan gig in the USA. (Years later the BBC made a documentary about one of his recordings, a "lost" recording of Bob Dylan in London). Both he and my aunt were friends of Sandy Denny (Fairport Convention) and Roy Harper, and they were involved in the vibrant folk rock scene in Britain in the late 60s and 70s. My uncle ran a Bob Dylan fanzine for many years and he still travels all over the world to see them. I mention my mother, sisters, aunt and uncle, because my family were a huge influence, helping to fuel and nurture my passion and interest in music. Fair to say that my interest in music was quite diverse, and that I was far more interested in how music was created than anything else. I got jobs working in recording studios, live events, played in bands sometimes professional, some times semi professionally. I rode motorcycles, had long hair, partied like there was no tomorrow, but music was always front and centre. One band had quite a large following, got loads of press coverage, played festivals and large gigs was on the brink of being signed, for it to fall away as the band imploded after a few years of playing together. A common enough story. I did session work too, that was fun. It should be said that, what little regard I had for wanting to be a celebrity died away at this time. It had never been a huge motivational factor, but for a variety of reasons, mainly being hugely uncomfortable with press intrusion on my life (even at that minuscule level of celebrity) and being recognised going down the street, became something I didn't want. So here I was, a musician and writer, who loved performing, wanted to play bigger gigs and record my music... but I hated celebrity, what it stood for. I wanted attention for my music, but no attention for me lol. A conundrum! Then I injured my spine. I went from playing gigs several times a week to lying on a floor for 18 months and what was to become decades of pain and extended periods of incapacity, operations, stacks of pain killers, injections, hundreds of hours of physiotherapy. I could no longer reliably perform. I couldn't work as a roadie, or sound crew, or even as a recording engineer. So I went to night school, got the qualifications I needed to get to University, studied and achieved an honours degree in Electronics with Music, which was mainly about designing music tech, but also using it, composition etc. I played in bands all through University, and I honed my music making skills and applying my creativity to technology and the business of music. It was a mind expanding period for me, literally. I played on TV, live gigs on radio, did my share of TV and magazine interviews, Fun years. By now I had built a lot of experience of music marketing and promotion, learned a lot about the making of an artist, managing bands, recording and producing, even the kinds of music deals around, and the ways that the music business worked, how it ticked over, common strategies etc. I had seen bands that worked inrehearsal studios beside us, go from nothing to the top of the charts in the UK and the USA, and had spent a lot of time talking with people behind the scenes, including band managers and entertainments lawyers, publishers and Record Label staff. I started work with Motorola while my musical focus turned towards what I could do at home, recording using computers, electronica, and towards the fledgling internet as a great way to meet and work with other musicians. I was producing local bands and started working with a female singer. We made chill out tracks, were getting featured on Radio One in the UK by Pete Tong and others, we were meant to be tour support for Groove Armada, things were happening again.... and then my back went again. The old injury came back hard, another few operations... and while lying on my back, still full of creativity, frustrated as hell that I should have spent so much time learning all these skills, and they were just going to evaporate away, as if they never happened, when I came up with the idea for Songstuff. If I couldn't do things myself, I wanted to help others, pass on what I had learned. The internet was still pretty new. Google didn't exist! I still made music in my home studio, I still worked with other musicians, but gradually Songstuff took over. I really enjoyed helping other musicians, connecting with people, learning about the internet, how it was used and how it could benefit bands. I transferred over a lot of skills developed in the real world for the old music business, and tried to bypass issues that the internet was throwing up, investigated what worked and what didn't and how successful bands used different strategies on and off the internet, and how they combined the two. Another mind expanding period! I added a community onto Songstuff, and the rest they say is history. I have met a load of famous people over the years, even at a very young age, and was aware just how ordinary they are (out with their sometimes exceptional, sometimes little better than average talent) We put them on a pedestal. Some remain good, untainted, others believe their own hype and really are not that nice. I've learned many lessons along the way, but amongst the most important lessons related to success, I would say are these: Always give attention to detail Be creative in all that you do (music, image, business, everything) Work to as high as standard as you can at all times Work hard Work harder Work harder still That is the essence of the work ethic that is required to make original, engaging music you can feel proud of... no matter if it is as a professional, semi-professional or enthusiastic amateur. Happy accidents occur rarely. Everything else is just noise. A long post (as if I am not known for them lol) but on a bright note, I didn't write an entire book) Hopefully it adds to your picture of who I am, and maybe even what Songstuff is. Why Songstuff is. Cheers John
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    Wow you're gonna regret asking that question. I'm gonna ramble on about myself because then I can pretend I'm being interviewed by the music press...no doubt plenty of others will...it'll get really annoying... Well, Sreyashi... It all started in the mid 70s after a chance meeting with David Crosby over at our mutual friend Joni's place in Laurel Canyon... kind of... well not exactly... it was my mum n dad's house in Moston North Manc...but Moston and Laurel Canyon were really similar except one was beautiful, sunny and smelled of sinsemilla. and one was a rainy, sh*t hole which smelled of coal, tar and garbage. Anyway...there, aged 8ish, I spent most of my non-school time in headphones listening to whatever I could find in mum n dad's record collection... mostly Del Shannon, Buddy Holly and The Dave Clarke 5. Unlike most kids, I listened thoroughly (because I'm better than everyone else), I can't stand background music. And so the spirit of music possessed me. Soon I was performing to crowds ... Usually Mr Gribbins (psychotic old pervert) class... since he thought making kids go to the front of class to sing was amusing punishment (not as much as he enjoyed putting our heads between his legs to smack our arses)...with such classics as 'Skinny Dogs' and 'Dylan The Fairground Man'. I got the bug. Later, aged 13ish, I began sketching out my master plan...literally sketching it... inventing my new band, recruiting top non-musical talent from Mr Braithwaite's (miserable old git) history class to form the ultimate rock group - 'Satan's Avengers'. And inspiration for our first shit came when my good friend Shaun (school nut job) revealed his latest creation from beneath his school blazer... DEMENTON! (An action man/ GI Joe, which had been mutilated so it was just a head stuck onto one leg)...I wrote the song immediately - Just a head on one leg, That's Dementon! Just a head on one leg, That's all! Yeah just a head on one leg, But a mind built for war, He'll tear out your brains, And eat them still raw, Built by the dark lord himself, Aaaaargh, built with pride, Are you ready to die? Let Dementon decide. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh, prepare to meet his maker! This received rave reviews such as "Headmasters office!...NOW!" And so a star was born... I'll spare you the middle stuff between then and now... You asked!
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    I challenge (or I shame, if need be) every member to make a donation to Songstuff. I just made one using the PayPal Donate button at the top banner. Yeah, I know we're all broke after the holidays. But, if I can donate something, then so can you. C'mon . . . DIG DEEP! David
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    Hello friends I have another song here. I was not planning to write more before I actually finish my previous ones. But I had this chorus melodyline in my head " when the night is young I put on my shoes" so thats where it started and it ended up into lyrics about missing someoone, but i also imagine is about missing a passion she has (like dancing). It also ends well for once. So I am working on many things at same times now. The outro is a little bit long, but I enjoyed playing the organ and doing this rich choir could be cutted I think All critics are welcome of course! I also played with de essing. it might be I did to much. Everything is done in Reason 8.3.2d7 Here are the lyrics: Dancing with Shadows Verse: When you are gone I have a story I want to tell, about passion and love that went blind. There is no one in this world that is going to say, I need distraction from my troubled mind. Seasons are fleeting, many moons have passed me by. There's no secret I miss you much. Echoes and whispers of your voice still make me cry and I remember your tender touch. Chorus: When the night is young I put on my shoes. I keep dancing alone with shadows of you. With you. Verse: When I am moving I have many seamless thoughts. I feel the fire still burns in my heart. I get this feeling that I am not quite alone that someone is watching the performance of my art. Chorus: When the night is young I put on my shoes. I keep dancing alone with shadows of you. With you. Bridge: All of a sudden someone takes my hand. Someone says: "This is not the end." Chorus: When the night was young I did put on my shoes. I kept dancing alone with shadows , dancing alone with shadows , dancing alone With you... Outro but now you are here I am dancing with you..with you..
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    I used to love her, but i had to kill her<< best break up song of all time
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    I found my dog on my porch at 3 a.m. one morning. He had broken away from his chain somewhere and the piece of chain still connected to his collar got wrapped up in the railing of my porch. No one claimed him, so I kept him, and I still have him. I named him Django, because he only came into my life after becoming Unchained.
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    The good news is, slow progress is perfectly fine. You'll get there when you get there. The best advice I can offer is... decide on a specific direction be patient (baby steps) Without having specific goals, it's damn near impossible to get where you want to go. Good luck and try to enjoy the process Tom
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    J Morrison (C) May 2017 if you're going to kiss me you gotta do it right kiss me 'cause you love me not because you might put your arms around me pull me in real tight if you're going to kiss me baby do it right the first time I met you I knew you were the one I wanted love you just wanted fun if your going to kiss me you gotta do it right kiss me 'cause you love me not because you might put your arms around me pull me in real tight if your going to kiss me baby do it right kept hoping you would see we were more than friends it took sometime but got there in the end if you're going to kiss me you gotta do it right kiss me 'cause you love me not because you might put your arms around me pull me in real tight if you're going to kiss me baby do it right I guess the time has come because you know I love you if you love me back you know what to do if you're going to kiss me you gotta do it right kiss me 'cause you love me not because you might you put your arms around me pulled me in real tight if you're going to kiss me baby do it right
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    Hello! So, I'm working on a song called 'Get Me Down' and I have had a time working on the production and mixing on this one. I think I'm close, but I could probably use some better mixing of the background vocals, and I hear a few weird things. I'd like to know your thoughts and would greatly appreciate any feedback. Thanks!
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    I don't remember how I found the website, but I really am happy I did. Most people in the real world don't know I make music as regularly as I do. Hopefully this will change with time, but this website allows me to put out these crazy ideas I have in my head without getting weird reactions. I find it easier to talk to strangers than people I know, but I feel like I've actually made some friends on here. It's because of all you guys that I figured out that music is what makes me happiest and, therefore, I need to continue to try my best for as long as I can. This is a community at heart: everyone is here to see each other succeed and help them in whatever way possible. I have also found some uber amazing music here and am constantly blown away by everyone's abilities and pure talent. Hell, some of the tracks I have listened on here sound more professionally mixed/mastered than tracks I have bought. Songstuff also allows me to listen to music critically, more so than I already do. With each track, I pick out specific pieces I like and don't like (production, instrumentation, etc.), and I think that's later applied to my own music. Really, this website has taken me in with open arms. I don't think I would have progressed as much as I have without this aspiration to create for and with a community. And I can only hope that one day I will be a fraction of how good some of you are ! I've said this before, but I'll never say it enough. Thank you for everyone who has listened to my tracks and offered invaluable input. Thank you for Songstuff for fostering a platform for my thoughts and the crazy ideas of everyone else on this site! Thank you so much..
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    I hear this song as kind of a country feel, with a driving beat. It's a bit tongue-in-cheek, but my girlfriends all love the concept of it. See what you think: “Just in Case” (Patty Lakamp) When love turns sideways and you’re feelin’ trapped A lack of cash can leave you handicapped Get some just-in-case money, just in case So you can buy your ticket out and start over again Your man keeps tellin’ you he’s workin’ late He’s dyein’ his hair and he’s losin’ weight Get some just-in-case money, just in case So you'll be the one lookin' good when you're makin' your break (Chorus) Just in case, just in case A woman needs her walkin’ money, just in case Stay in love if you can But play it smart and have a backup plan You need to make sure that you’ll be okay So take the time to plan your getaway Get some just-in-case money, just in case So you're not tied down to a life if you don't want to stay (Chorus) Just in case, just in case A woman needs her walkin’ money, just in case Stay in love if you can But play it smart and have a backup plan (Bridge) You need to invest for those times you detest Give yourself the latitude To grab your coat and hat-itude (Chorus) Just in case, just in case A woman needs her walkin’ money, just in case Stay in love if you can But play it smart and have a backup plan Patty Lakamp © Copyright 2017
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    Hi Sreyashi If there are issues within the song that make de rhyming an issue the other things that increase instability are. Rhyme type: Perfect rhymes are most stable so you can reduce the stability by replacing perfect rhymes with subtractive rhymes ( crying/die) all the way down to consonant only rhymes which is more of a sonic connection or alliteration than a rhyme (crying/cat). Having an uneven number of lines is unstable. Having uneven line lengths is unstable. In addition there is setting of the lyric in the melody. If you set one of the sadder lines "back heavy" that will increase the emotional impact. That is instead of the first naturally stressed syllable appearing on the first beat of the bar ( front heavy) you have it on the third beat of the bar. This works with contrast as some lines are front heavy some are back heavy. Example 1 2 3 3.5 4 4.5 1 2 How I’d dreamed of us to geth er 3 4 1 2 3 Turns out I couldn't be more wrong The bold words are the naturally stressed syllables each line is a 3 length. The numbers above are the beat in the bar the word falls on. "How" is on beat 1 (front heavy)"Turns" in line two falls on beat 3 (back heavy). The final thing you can do is weak bar phrase the entire song. That is start the vocal melody on an even bar number. So the intro will be typically 3 or 5 bars long. This adds a wistful sad feeling to the entire song. As an example of this if you look at a John Lennon song " Hey you've got to hide your love away" You will see the verse goes 2,2,3 2,2,3 (line lengths) and the rhyme scheme is AAB CCB. The rhyme types are all perfect. In other words even line length even rhyme pattern and perfect rhymes. All massively stable, since the song is sad this should cause a prosody issue and yet it doesn't. If you listen too it, it feels like someone sitting on the end of his bed singing sadly too himself. Why? because it's weak bar phrased the guitar is strummed for three bars before the vocal melody begins on bar four. If the melody had begun on bar 5 it would have sounded completely wrong with a disconnect between the music and the lyric. It is an important comment that you knew something was not right but not what. There is a misconception that if you are conscious of all these techniques and effects you can do with lyrical structure, that it will inhibit your writing, because your all bound up in all these rules. This is wrong, because you just write, then you say that's not quite sounding how it is in my head. You ask why, and if you know these techniques you can quickly say aha that's probably the problem very quickly. You can then apply fixes, starting from the easiest. Which in your case would be to weak bar phrase the whole song and that may fix it just like that. Cheers Gary
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    Hi everyone! I've been recording another one of my songs. This one is a bit more up-tempo. There's certain things I'm not yet completely happy with, mainly related to the vocals. I would love to hear your comments/opinions/feedback on anything from the arrangement, production, or mix. Is there anything that sticks out that sounds wrong? Thanks! https://soundcloud.com/will-sketches/love-right-now-new-demo
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    I feel lucky and that I have a very large sphere of people in my life...and I stay "in front" of news... But or So or And...I internalize emotion (based on my own reaction) which ends up in my lyric writing. I often write in first person to project the feelings I've had to what moved me in some way. But the emotion, that came about, may be written in whole and raw or in contrast or disbelief, scarcistic, or masked. But how i present the feeling happens as my thoughts go down. Almost always deeply personal......happy-sad-pissed,lost- found, lonely or over-whelmed., initimate or distance, opened or veiled. I try it. And it's real. I might add...sometimes it works sometimes..not so much And I'm a happy peep Peggy
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    We would be what folk sounds like, if folk wore steel capped boots. We will post some covers, please check them out. Lovre from Aurora.
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    Greetings. I'm Richard and have just signed up and will tell you a little about myself. I live in Melbourne, Australia and have played music since I was a teenager (an epoch ago). I wrote from the beginning but stopped for no good reason about 30 years ago. Started writing again about four years ago and am in a home recording duo with a female vocalist (Anne). I write mainly safe, middle-the-road stuff and would be interested in some feedback on our 'stuff' and discussions around recording and songwriting. Our duo is called Strawberry Lane - Yes I'm a Beatles fan. Cheers Richard
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    Hi, My take on the news challenge. Appreciate any comments Article May 1 2017 Science Daily The Mysterious Powers of Spider Silks https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/05/170501112627.htm Threads Of The Finest Silk Copyright 05/01/2017 Peggy L. Smart'Barnes --------- C 1 --------- We were born with it Mystery of strength We adorn in it Threads of the finest silk Weaving our world -------- V 1 ------------ I'll write your name in the moonlight Perfumed across the tightwire I've built for you Waiting to feel your vibrations Will you know the way to me --------- V 2 ----------- I'll draw you in with a coolness Immuned beyond any notions That may not be There are so many battles Will you find a way to me --------- C 2 ---------- We were born with it Mystery of strength We adorn in it Threads of the finest silk Weaving our world ---------- V 3 ----------- Encased by my silkened cape Consumed by the attention I"ll give to you When sunlight bares no shadow Will you walk away with me --------- C 3 ----------- We were born with it Mystery of strength We adorn in it Threads of the finest silk Weaving our world
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    Hello everybody, my name is Michael and I loved music ever since I can remember. Nowadays I even try to write it by myself - just as a hobby. I live in Germany near the danish border. Please excuse my poor english - I learn to use it more correctly day by day. I am an IT-professional / software developer, but back in my youth I already made music with a Commodore Amiga, a sound-digitizer, a very small audio mixer and two tape-decks. Then "career" came... A few years ago I started to learn playing the guitar and step-by-step I collected all these little things like a couple of microphones, an amplifier, an audio-capturing-device, a DAW etc. Now, being nearly able to use these utilities and to play some chords and picks on the guitar, I am looking for an entry in songwriting just to create my own stuff and to tell some of the stories that I'm thinking about. My musical tastes are from the singer/songwriter genre, names like Loreena McKennit, Tina Dico, Milow and yes, Ed Sheeran. And last but not least all these evergreens like Simon & Garfunkel, John Denver, Cat Stevens. I love these songs in which song content, music and emotion go together and make me feel like I experienced the story be myself. In my own songs I am currently working on issues like merging song structure, song content and emotion - how to arrange a song to make it interesting. And of course I often try to use the english language correctly. See you...
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    Keep My Powder Dry Copyright © 2016 by L.C. Campbell Verse 1 When love turns to war It’s not love anymore Home is a battleground Casualties all around Don’t even remember what I’m fighting for Chorus 1 So I’ll keep on keepin’ on Give nothing away Bind up my wounds Live to love another day Hold my head up high You won’t see me cry No tears on my face I’ll keep my powder dry Verse 2 We were on the same side Now the gap’s a mile wide I can’t see your heart from here Who we were has disappeared There’s no point in fighting what’s already died Chorus 2 So I’ll keep on keepin’ on Give nothing away Bind up my wounds Live to love another day Hold my head up high You won’t see me cry No tears on my face I’ll keep my powder dry Bridge I’ve learned the hard way that lipstick and blush Just aren’t enough when the going gets rough Chorus 3 So I’ll keep on keepin’ on Give my heart away In spite of my wounds I’ll live to love another day Hold my head up high You won’t see me cry No tears on my face I’ll keep my powder dry
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    Hi Gang Your second challenge is a double challenge. Your mission, should you choose to accept it... Part 1: Write lyrics where the verse contains no rhymes, internal or external. The ONLY exception to this is if your verse includes a refrain, in which case the refrain can rhyme internally or externally. This is harder than it seems as lyrics still have to form a pleasing flow, but without rhyming. Many beginner writers in particular get stuck in simple rhyme schemes. This exercise is to show what can be done without rhyme. Part 2: The title you choose must be your main hook It must be placed in a powerful position (not buried mid-line, mid-verse) It must be used several time (repeated in a chorus or pre-chorus or refrain for example). Cheers John
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    Hello! This is a new song I'm playing with. It came together pretty quickly -- I threw this recording together this evening. Any comments/suggestions/critiques are welcome! (Why Do I) Care What You Think It doesn’t matter if you know me Don’t say a word, pretend you can’t see I glared at you but didn’t see you And now you think I’m always angry. I didn’t mean it, had a bad day I didn’t know that I was staring I was frustrated at the things in my brain A hectic morning and a late day. I could tell you that I’m sorry, try to make amends Why do I care what you think? I don’t know you, you are not my friend Why do I care what you think? Why do I care? It’s not my problem but I’ll smile, anyway Next time I see you in the elevator Just to be sure that I don’t hurt you again Fragile stranger, just like me. I could tell you that I’m sorry, try to make amends (but) Why do I care what you think? I don’t know you, you are not my friend Why do I care what you think? Fragile stranger, I know how you feel, I never, meant to, hurt you I could tell you that I’m sorry, try to make amends (but) Why do I care what you think? I don’t know you, you are not my friend Why do I care what you think? Why do I care?
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    Well, this is what I came up with this afternoon. The birds and slight road sounds aren't sound effects by the way, I just caught them from outside while recording the guitar and decided to keep them. Simple tune, I didn't have much time. Maybe I'll expand on it...not sure... Any feedback welcome. Added a new part and reduced the repeat on the end part. Does it work? Another update 10th March, now including some bass. https://soundcloud.com/monostone-1/distant-cars03/s-IO7C4 UPDATE WITH SHREYASI https://soundcloud.com/monostone-1/distant-cars08lessverb/s-3fNeZ Words - Evenings cold On the stone With my feet In the road Counting hours Wanting more Counting hours It’s a dream for the few Close my eyes to the truth It won’t be long Until the night It won’t be long Feel it in the sound Of distant cars The empty roads cold Waiting for Golden lights Golden lights Arms open wide Hope through fear All those years behind the tears Let’s go home Graceful love Painful love In the evening glow It's getting late and the world is waiting Mistakes are made In the evening glow Evening's cold On the stone With my feet In the road It won't be long Until the night It won't be long
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    This is my one minute song. Thinkin on making a full song later but I thought it suited this challenge for now .
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    Here's my take on new love that comes later in life. Coming Into Bloom Copyright © 2016 by L.C. Campbell Winter’s giving way to spring Warmer days are lingering And just like life begins anew I’m coming into bloom I’d fallen out of season Gave up on believing Love’s the seed I buried deep Within my dreams of you I know it’s still a fragile thing Late frost a possibility But I can almost feel the sun And now it’s rising into view Like fresh petals opening Unsure of what the morning brings I can’t recall the last time I felt so brand new Winter’s giving way to spring Warmer days are lingering And just like life begins anew I’m coming into bloom
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    To actually answer the question: When I was kid in elementary school, my parents bought a pretty nice upright piano for me and my four sisters, and my mom made us all take piano lessons - she didn't play. The piano was pretty cool because it had built in rhythms - metronome, samba, rumba, shuffle, a 4/4 pattern, a 6/8 pattern, etc. - that I guess were recorded loops of some sort. It was pretty revolutionary for the time. So, I've had rhythms the play to from the start - which no doubt greatly influenced my love of rhythm. My piano teacher was really cool as well. She recognized that I wasn't very good at reading music, but that I could play really well by ear and had a strong sense of rhythm. So, instead of having me learn from the same standard piano books my sisters and other young students had to learn from, she got me sheet music for boggie woogie songs, and she'd play them for me so I knew how they were supposed to sound. That kind of got me hooked with making music, because I also almost immediately started coming up with my own piano instrumentals. For my first and only piano recital, I played a boogie woogie (I think it may have been something by Fats Domino) and one of my own original compositions. My best friend from the neighboorhood Karl had the same piano teacher. His mom had made him and his brothers take lessons as well - and I wonder now if that's where my mom got the idea. Karl quit lessons right before I was forced to start. My mom let me quit after a year, because I got "older" and taking piano lessons didn't seem cool, and practicing and lessons wasn't something I wanted to do during summer. But, I never stopped coming up with my own stuff at home Eventually, I got Karl interesed in coming up with his own stuff at home too, and so, we kind of kept encouraging each other that way over the next four years or so. When Karl and I were 15, Karl started teaching himself to play acoustic guitar using some old steel string that sat in the corner of his living room which no one played. Well, it just so happened that my older sister had quit guitar lessons, and her nylon string acoustic was just gathering dust under her bed - so I stole it. It didn't take long for Karl and I to figure out how to use the guitar chord schematics on all the sheet music each of our families had left over from piano lessons to guide our fretting fingers. And, since we each were good at playing by ear and knew how the popular songs we had sheet music for were supposed to sound, we were playing songs in no time. After awhile though, Karl and I wen't on divergent musical paths. He kept buying sheet music to learn how to play James Taylor, and I started doing my own songs - with words - that I sung. I've been doing it ever since, first with that classical nylon-string acoustic, then with a steel string acoustics, then with electric guitars, then with synths and MIDI and multi-track analog recording . . . and now also with my DAW.
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    Proposals 2, 3, and 4 are now implemented
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    Will you guys please stop fighting. I'm so tired of going to read something and there you two are going at it, name calling and trying to … oh wait … you guys aren't fighting. Wait, you guys aren't fighting?!?!?! Happy New Year Huck and Poo!
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    Hiya guys, It has been a while since I've posted here. Hope it has been well. I wrote this song a couple of days ago. I envision it to be more of an RnB/Neo-Soul "Justin Timberlake" kinda production. And those who have heard my songs before know that such an arrangement is not exactly my forte. So I was wondering if you can help me out with ideas. Anything that comes to mind. Hopefully I get to work with a producer soon and get this song going. Until then, I plan to work with my DAW and learn as much I can on my own. As always, thanks for the help. And as I keep saying, I've learnt much over the years! (Edit: Thanks for the heads up @M57 ) *Finders Keepers* Don't you see what you're doing? As you sit there playing blind, All you burn is out the fire You left behind As you turn back the pages, Slip away to your alibi, I'm standing here Waiting for a sign babe Come, won't you come now... Come before we're out of time Before you change my mind Learn to see through the grime Come find me Yes, I know you have reasons For your actions and your cause, But darlin' is it love when all you do Is keep me in the dark? I am far from perfection And your standards maybe high But you know I love you More than love, you can't deny Come, won't you come now... Come before we're out of time Before you change my mind Learn to see through the grime Come find me Forgive me, I am tired Forgive me, I am lost when you are quiet Lead me to your light Won't you come, won't you come now Come before we're out of time Before you change my mind Learn to see through the grime Come find me Finders Keepers Written and performed by Mahesh Raghunandan All Rights Reserved © 2016
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    From the album Images

    Here's me the other day at Sun Studios. Great tour there. $1,000 for 5 hours of recording time. Can you guess who will never record there?
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    I still think the major obstacle to newbies getting more feedback for their posted lyrical or musical works is their understandable assumption that they should post in the "Members Only" sub-forum boards, which we all know are deserted islands compared to the bustle of the main, public boards. And, I still think that problem could be significantly mitigated if in the description of the Members Only boards it was made clear that the sub-forum is private from the public, that it does not get as much attention - even from other members, and that if you want maximum exposure and feedback you should scroll down and click "Start New Topic" to post your thread in the main, public forum below. I see it happen - they post in the Members Only forum, they're essentially ignored, and they never post here again. I and other members try to catch them and explain the difference between the private forum and the public one, but we don't get them all, and it's a pain in the ass. In my opinion, the descriptions for the Members Only boards themselves should explain all that upfront so the problem is avoided. I also still think instrumentals need not be banished to their own largely-ignored sub-forum as well. More experienced members will post instrumentals in the main forum regardless. But, newbies typically won't. Although I have no idea how big of an issue it is, I do know some new members, especially more novice artists, feel intimidated by some of the more polished recordings by more experienced talent posted in the song and recording critique forum. I know, because they say so when they begin their first post, which invariably contain a list of disclaimers apologizing for their presentation. I can't help but wonder how many other newbies don't even get to the point of being confident enough to post that first post. Maybe that issue does need to be addressed somehow better than it currently is. I also think some pinned topic of tips somewhere where explanations of how to do things here on the site via the Songstuff software could not only be useful to new members, but us older ones too. How to delete and edit a comment. How to delete your topic/thread. How to change the title of your topic thread using the Full Editor. How to avoid having a giant signature like Rudi had, etc.
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    SongStuff While I think about it… Moderators: I know well enough that they aren’t appreciated most of the time. Sometimes it’s laborious to mind the site and pander to the members. A bit like having to mind the kids when all you really want is an hour or two to yourself? Yes, I was a mod once . Contributors: Moderators are contributors, but so is everyone who reviews a service, product or critiques somebodys work. They are also those who stimulate ideas that can be serious or funny. The least appreciated contributors seem to be the technical experts who enable us to function better with their assiduously acquired knowledge. Regulars: I sometimes feel embarrassed that there are more regulars here than I know about. They spend their time elsewhere on the forums and so I think of them as newbies until I notice their post count. Then I realise it’s been too long since I visited the creative forums and listen to some tunes or read some lyrics. Imposters : They are not interested in us. They are here to impress us, court our praise and inspire us to follow them. When they fail (they always do) they move on. They most frequently are responsible for the ‘Too Good to be True’ posts. Queue Jumpers: Imposters are queue jumpers, though not all queue jumpers are imposters. Why do I call them queue jumpers? Because I liken the lounge to the front page of a newspaper, and they only want to be on the front page. To be noticed first, whether they deserve it or not. ‘Too Good to be True’ posts: An enticing title, almost always misleading. So after you’ve read it, you wish you hadn’t. Why? Because it’s just another ‘queue jumper’ who wants attention. Typically that post will be their first or second. They have a band to advertise, a product, a website, or maybe just their own work. I usually feel duped after reading such posts. The lounge: Most of us put in the time and become part of the community and give something back to it. Most of us will post our work in the areas provided for that purpose. I realise that the lounge welcomes ‘shameless self promotion’, but I for one will only reluctantly read or respond such posts. I’m not proposing any change to the lounge’s purpose & function. I understand that there are pros as well as cons in all this. Just making my position clear. Songwriting, Lyrics, Recording. The creative areas seem to take care of themselves. With people interacting and getting to know one another and their work. They make their own mini communities. If I were John, I would be most satisfied with this state of affairs. To have carefully created something, launched it, and eventually see it not only function, but propel itself forwards under its own momentum with minimal maintenance. It’s a bit like parenting. You nurture and prepare a child as best you can, but then see them head off into life as their own person, maybe doing stuff that you never foresaw. Mosh Pit: It’s a volatile place that could be shut down at any time because it could become dysfunctional & nasty. Why is it there? In there, we can reveal the parts of us that are normally not seen. Sometimes we may not like what we see, but that is its real function, because if we confine ourselves to time honoured social etiquette we become sanitised and bland. Most important of all, we get to see what others make of the newly revealed us. The creative areas are the converse of this. They are like pre-school play pens; with safe rounded edges and soft flooring. Being creative often means getting out of the play pen and into some dirty, maybe even toxic areas. Pound for pound, I have personally found more inspiration in the mosh pit than elsewhere.That’s why books, film & video games all involve conflict and struggle of some sort; be it physical, mental or intellectual. There’s a reason that there are no successful stories where everything is wonderful all of the time. All the same, most Mosh Pit contributors probably wonder how long the place can last. I think that the longer it does last, the better we collectively are. By better I mean more resilient, flexible and generally robust mentally and emotionally. Taking a few bruises now and then is fine. Only if anything more serious occurs will we need to reconsider closure. This post turned out longer than I had intended. It wasn’t meant to be definitive or all inclusive, but just a sketch. I appreciate everybody here that I know. I have not harboured any grudges (yet). I sometimes worry a little about friends that disappear for a while, or visit less frequently; - Yes I do have someone in mind right now. I’ll check FaceBook later on. Sometimes people that seem the least grounded or discerning, demonstrate remarkable insight or integrity, and other qualities that don’t always show. That’s why I have not yet given up on anyone here yet. I continue to be surprised and rewarded by remaining open to those I disagree with. I'm happy to learn from anyone at all. John: are you still reading this? Thank you for maintaining SS and being here ALL THE TIME man. That goes for the Mods too.
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    Some of the boards I don't get to as often, but as time passes, I manage to get around to more than a few. Most of the site is silent reading for me, the Song title association thread is just so cool to pop in and listen to some great music, but I like the song critique forum too. Still, I spend most of my time in the lyrics forum, singing silent songs. I like the addition of the pit. You know, I recently have spoken to two members over the phone, an act that always catches me off guard. I don't know why, it's a strange thing for me to hear someone's voice for the first time. I've spent years on songstuff and haven't heard enough voices. Somehow, the pit is a little like that. it's almost a voice, it's a new dimension added to how I see someone. You can get a good feel for someone's character through their music and lyrics, but give them something to fight for, or a chance to state their core beliefs, and you add some color too the picture for sure. There's nobody in the pit I wouldn't hang out with, even if I don't agree with them much, because at least I know they're honest. I like the articles page, I've read most of them, some of them more than a few times. I like the site bugs and suggestions, and I like seeing Steve pop in every once in a while and would like to suggest he do it more often. I like that it seems sort of family-ish around here. I think someone said it already, but that has to do with how the site is run, the temperament, the ideas, the guidance from all the site staff and the cooperation of fellow members. Nice post Rudi, insightful, thoughtful, thankful. Sparked some nice comments.
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    Hope you enjoy this as a fun one needs a bit of tweaking but thought you might like the read. The Devil Rides A Bike © L G Service November 2016 All Rights Reserved. C The Devil rides a bike, So the legend goes The screaming noise the engine makes Is the screams of tortured souls The paint is a coat of blood The frame is made of bones The flesh of man makes the seat So the legend goes The Devil rides a bike The Devil rides a bike You can Ride with the Devil Ride with the Devil, if you like V I heard a sound coming down the street That made my hair all stand on end A roaring ball of flame and smoke Came tearing around the bend I ducked behind the nearest bush Trying to hide from that evil beast He pulled right up beside me and laughed He said, On your soul I'm going to feast C The Devil rides a bike, So the legend goes The screaming noise the engine makes Is the screams of tortured souls The paint is a coat of blood The frame is made of bones The flesh of man makes the seat So the legend goes The Devil rides a bike The Devil rides a bike You can Ride with the Devil Ride with the Devil, if you like V I looked that Devil straight in the eye And said you cant have my soul I've made a pact with the man upstairs He's the only Lord I know The Devil stared right back at me And snarled one day you'll be mine I laughed and said over my dead body He laughed back, and said that's what I had in mind! The Devil rides a bike, So the legend goes The screaming noise the engine makes Is the screams of tortured souls The paint is a coat of blood The frame is made of bones The flesh of man makes the seat So the legend goes The Devil rides a bike The Devil rides a bike You can Ride with the Devil Ride with the Devil, if you like B I gave him the bird! If you know what I mean He said my name is written in his book I said go read it again you fiend This time take a proper look He road off in a huff, Ha Ha No soul for him tonight! C The Devil rides a bike, So the legend goes The screaming noise the engine makes Is the screams of tortured souls The paint is a coat of blood The frame is made of bones The flesh of man makes the seat So the legend goes The Devil rides a bike The Devil rides a bike You can Ride with the Devil Ride with the Devil, if you like If you like If you like You can Ride with the Devil Ride with the Devil, if you like
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    Elemental © Copyright 2003 John Moxey, all rights reserved Verse The sky, rotates above our heads Behind our eyes all our lives are lead Breathing out a cloud cascades Into the waiting air, where all is said Chorus And with two arms, held open wide Between the times that we live and die Too soon before, I could know my fate I know my fate, know my fate Verse To feel the sun caress our skin Coaxing the seed that we hold within Reaching out as daylight fades Towards the lifeboat light, where all is safe Chorus And with two arms, held open wide Between the times that we live and die Too soon before, I could know my fate I know my fate, know my fate Instrumental Bridge Chorus And with two arms, held open wide Between the times that we live and die Too soon before, I could know my fate I know my fate, know my fate