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Pat Spriggs

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Pat Spriggs last won the day on April 19 2014

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About Pat Spriggs

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    United States of America
  • Interests
    Waking up; Breathing the crisp air; coffee; A really good hook; my kids; God Almighty, the maker of heaven and earth

Music Background

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    Pat Spriggs
  • Musical / Songwriting / Music Biz Skills
    Writing any type of song: rock, pop, jazz, r&b, show tune, church music
  • Musical Influences
    Paul McCartney, Sting, Andy Partridge, Rich Mullins, Steve Wonder, Yes, Sade, Genesis/Peter Gabriel, U2


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  1. I Know A Girl A Boy Calls Paul

    I'll just throw some scratch sounds and a weird little background and some echoes and voila!! I have me a song.
  2. Twisted Gifts

    Love the idea of the song...this is a really good example of how three chords can be explored and built upon and expanded. You really did a great job with that. You didn't feel the need to change that, adding different chords or rhythms... just add and build. That takes more talent than most realize. Great vocal inflection as well. You sound really desperate. The echoes worked in your favor to reach that goal. Well done, friend. keep up the good work.
  3. Hook Or No Hook? That Is The Question.

    I immediately started thinking of "If You Really Love Me" by Stevie Wonder. A really good example of that hook laden song you are referring to. It starts out with the main theme, infectious, over and deliciously over: And if you really love me, won't you tell me.. And if you really love me, won't you tell me.. And if you really love me, Why don't you tell me? Then I won't have to be playing around Then he gets into another unforgettable lyric and melodic hook You call my name, oh so sweet To make your kiss incomplete.. Then he completes his thought to get us back to the name of the song, which is?? REPEATED And so on..Stevie is a great example of what a hook and sub-hooks should sound like. Any fledgling or experienced songwriter should have a favorite in every genre. R&B, Rock, Gospel, etc.... But he's not the only one. There are other more modern examples. Like that Eminem and Rhianna song a few years back, I Love The Way You Lie. She starts the song out with the hook and main theme: Just gonna stand there And watch me burn But it's alright Because I like The way it hurts Just gonna stand there And hear me cry But that's alright Because I love The way you lie I love the way you lie After he does his rap, which is, sort of got a rhythm hook to it, she comes in to get us back to why we listen to the song. That melodic, catchy, melancholy line: Just gonna stand there And watch me burn...yada.... I love the way you lie I try and help out song writers by teaching them to find a really simple chord progression and repeat it over, and over, and...over...til that hook just kinda jumps out at them. But you are so right, John. There is more to popular music than the catchy hook/chorus. There are simple, 1 bar melodies that can make a song and make it a timeless classic. Remember Chuck Mangione's trumpet classic, "Feels So Good"? Have a listen to it and see what I mean. Yea, even Beethoven knew what he was doing with his 5th Symphony hook. Talk about hard to forget!
  4. I have listened to a lot of songs here on the forum here. I have listened to and created amateur/semi pro music for most of my adult life. And I have come to a really simple, yet critical, conclusion: Most of the stuff we hear and create (on forums like this and other amateur formats) doesn't have a good melody, or in pop terms, a good hook. Now, I know that this is common talk. We have all heard the lecture, read the book, taken the class online, watched a youtube tutorial...you get the picture. We have had the word "hook" indelibly etched into our songwriting conscious, even going into our subconscious. We have been told that without it, we will not grab the attention of our listener. Without the hook your audience will change the channel. They will click elsewhere. In other words, they will not listen. I hope this doesn't sound preachy. I'm just really passionate about this subject. I am in the continuous hunt for the hook in any song I start. I have a boatload of bits on my phone that I have to scan through on my next writing go-round. I hum, beat, sing, play and talk through song ideas on my recorder app. I hope you do the same. I will listen intently to each one again and again. Most I will cut because I don't get a rise from the hook. My ears need to fall in love with that little line or lines that will have me obsessing for the rest of the project. There are some songs that I have written that I am sorry I spent so much time on because I chose to love my idea rather than follow the Rule of the Hook. Ralph Murphy said hit songs usually have five to seven repetitions of the title, but he cautions not to overdo it. And those repetitions need to be a fit and trim and wonderful as possible. What kind of litmus test do you put your songs through? Do you trust that the melody, or the hook, is something that anyone will want to whistle or hum, even if they don't particularly like the subject matter?
  5. Hey Guys Tell Me What You Think Of My Song?

    I like the flow and the feel. I love your voice. I think if you tried to take a few words out in the beginning, it might no be "tiring" to listen to. You were even tired just singing them, gasping for air. Give yourself more space. The words...are a little unimaginative. Music- B Flow- C+ Lyrics - C
  6. Songdoor Contest

    I have one called "In a Dream" that is similar sounding, but not as genius, as the theme for "A Beautiful Mind" called 'A Kaleidoscope of Mathematics'. by James Horner. Just lovely.
  7. Songdoor Contest

    Well, I entered "You're Never Far Away" which is in the Christian category. But I have until August. I may add a pop and an instrumental.
  8. Hey Hey!

    Hi! Welcome. Let's hear what you got! No wasting time hahaha
  9. Songdoor Contest

    Did anyone enter their song yet in their contest? Will you? I did. This year is my my first entry in any contest.
  10. Which Do You Let Do The Talking? The Music Or Lyrics?

    A good melody will keep me listening longer then great words. My writing always starts with the melody, the feel, the theme. Sometimes both. But the melody is king, my friend
  11. Like A Kid Again

    Boy, I like this. I was listening to country all day, so my first inclination is to put a bit of a twang in it. I hear it, bro. Great story telling. Great stuff!
  12. "you're Alright" - Lounge Track

    I was singing some killer lines to this. I like it.
  13. I Will Leave Her

    A little Roy, a little Beatles...love the guitar work! Well done rhythmically. A really nice little song, man! One thing I love about this song is that there's a mystery about what happened Monday morning!!
  14. You're Never Far Away

    Glad you liked it, Alex!
  15. Someday (Wip)

    Yup. What they all said. You got it goin' on, brother. Now git to it and finish it.