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About john

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    Smile, Be Happy
  • Birthday 01/10/1967

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    songwriting, guitar, piano and keys, singing, recording and technology, art, programming, computer games, reading, motorbikes... lots of stuff really :)

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    John Moxey
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    lyricist, composer, audio recording, production, performance
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    Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Black Sabbath, Crosby Stills and Nash, Free, Radiohead, Foo Fighters, David Bowie, Jethro Tull, Beethoven, Chopin, Rachmaninov, Portishead, Morcheeba, Air, Fairport Convention...


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  1. I can see that working for Royksopp (I like them too). Their market is not so image dominated. Their marketing is not as big a budget. Their branding is not as heavy. Maybe we can call it EP and mini EP lol There are a few theories on where the future lies. Everything from loss leading music, to rolling single releases, and even a few who think if they just hang tight with the old model it will come back around again.
  2. Richard, I am not saying "business as usual" or more of the same. Short albums, short EPs and singles is more or less what you are saying. Filler and experiments for singles, yes, but EPs and short albums allow them to have themes... and that plays well with branding, with tours and tour promotion... otherwise albums and EPs would already have disappeared. Physical CDs may still be around but my guess is they would be more about consumer choice of tracks and burned as needed in shops with whatever artist artwork is appropriate. There is a strong marketing benefit to a big splash and strong identity. That is far harder to do on the budget of a single. The need for reinvention is useful for artists for many reasons. Relaunches give more of an excuse for push marketing. People pay more attention when the message is new and fresh. They pay more attention with the difference between this model and the last is more marked. Incremental change does not really offer such opportunity. Music, software fashion, all develop incrementally. True some increments are bigger than others. People tend to buy incrementally too, except with binge buying at Christmas. This has pretty well always been the case. Now tech makes it easier to support it, because it is less expensive to do so.... but that was never really the problem with incremental release... otherwise singles would always have been the method of release, physical media or not. undoubtedly distribution costs are lower. It is easier to make incremental releases, and buyers are used to the ease of track purchase.... but that is not the same as batch release. Batches, in thus case albums, allows budgets to be pulled together. They allow the exploitation of brand themes, musical and otherwise. They allow marketers to make bigger budget splashes. The make it easier to hut with greater impact. Albums, EPs and singles mixed together allow the benefits of always present artists to be married with larger impact brand advertising. Albums and EPs being smaller make that more maintainable. Singles in particular allow them to explore new market segments. Its all a bit like mining. In mining you use bore holes (singles) to test for the presence of a mineral. A test pit can then be dug (EP) and when lucrative a seam will be opened with a full mine gallery (LP). As ever in the music industry there are artistic and business reasons and choices. You can guarantee that if albums did not serve a sound business purpose they would already has disappeared.
  3. Short answer is yes, although I agree with Richard, an EP was anywhere from 4 to 6 songs traditionally, while an album (LP) was usually 8-12. Albums will lose a track or two for more rapid turn around. Albums are more than just a collection of songs, especially for the pop market, and often with rock. They allow the artist to indulge fashion, similar or related concepts and styles, and then let them draw a line under it and move on. Think of Bowie, Madonna, Lady Gaga etc. They established a strong image by reinventing how they looked and sounded. They rely on marked characteristics to connect them. Sometimes that is something image related but usually it is something distinctive about their music. The character of the voice, the approach to production. With rolling single releases musicians lose the burst in activity of "something new" because change seems to be so gradual. This mutes response to changes. Regular singles in the rolling single mode will still occur, even mini 4 song EPs. These allow artists to have small pockets of experimentation... which is a good thing, and allow them to take advantage of the instant access generation, while retaining the step-wise benefits of the LP. Only rolling singles is a problematic model. Change becomes unremarkable, and that is often the death of an artist. Cheers John.
  4. Nice Rob. At some point It may also help to drop a line to anyone you feel you were unfairly aggressive to. They may or may not accept it, but at least you will have tried. As Mahesh might say (though probably wouldn't lol) "it will help balance your Karma". You may not feel it is needed, just a wee afterthought to help still a troubled heart and mind.
  5. Thanks!
  6. I don't fear for it. Music has fads and trends. At points deep and meaningful lyrics dominated. At others melody trumped to the point words were sometimes not used during significant parts of the song (BebopaLula). Other trends have been beat based. There have always been creative people in the mix, and factory music has often dominated. Have a listen to the likes of Sia and you get immense talent vocally, melodically and the lyrics aren't too shabby. The trouble is all the people who have sought to bypass hard work learning anything, lyrical or musical. They rely on loop libraries to produce combinations... quickly. Give it a few years and people will be flooding music sites with crap a Microsoft algorithm wrote for them. Few people will know how to play instruments to a good standard, at least as we currently know them, because they are not instant enough. This is tied up in the millennial generation obsession for instant, but shallow, gratification. Fame based on little talent and the grand celebration of mediocrity. Like all fashions it will come around. People will get bored into looking for something more challenging... and that will spark a drive for quality and a depth of meaning
  7. I have to agree. Love the groove and overall sound... voice is too far back to the point it adds almost nothing to the track. Bring it forward and it would be quite different. None the less, a great start.
  8. Jessie

    From the album My Artwork

    My cat Jessie
  9. 3 Ages of David Bowie

    From the album My Artwork

    3 heads of David Bowie through the years
  10. Hi and welcome to Songstuff!
  11. No more mosh pit bud, and I think if we keep on topic of why we are all here in the first place, clarity will come Do the changes work?
  12. Not at all Rob. The site needs to improve and sometimes changes made for one purpose interfere with something else, or become obsolete. When you say they have closed their profiles... I am not so sure I follow. They would have to ask to have their profiles closed and that rarely happens, or they would have had their account closed for seriously breaking site rules or for spamming and although that happens, it isn't that often. More common is where people stop dropping by. My take is Songstuff could do with being more interested in new members as a whole. I have made some changes to the Song and Recording boards (renaming, changing rules display and board description) that I hope could help. What do you think? I will do similar for the lyrics boards. Other than that I am happy with recent changes in the board structure, but think it could go further including rationalising the boards further.
  13. Can you PM me your registered email address for your previous account? That would be a good place to get started
  14. Songstuff has always been about the community. Even in the few months before we added forums, it was about the larger music community. To have you all feel at home, and motivated to make the site and community better is brilliant. For our community to move forward and thrive it needs people to give a damn about it. No matter how good it already is, it could be better. Your help, ideas and effort are hugely appreciated, and I mean that for all of you. You already help make a Songstuff what it is. Me saying to members "please do this, we need your help" is one thing, but members noticing things themselves and doing things to help is what really makes the difference. Suggestions and drive coming from members, rather than staff, passes that message on to other members too... that this place, our community, is worth giving a damn about... that participation is worthwhile... that community is important. How existing and long term members behave does set the tone, elsewhere too Rob, though here it seems particularly important. New arrivals look to older more established members, and to staff.... they sense the tone of a place. Are members enthusiastic? Are members encouraging? Are members talented? Helpful? Young/old? Fun? Etc. They are judgements people make all the time, often in the flash of a first impression. We all make a difference. We all help form that first impression.
  15. Great intro Randy. Nice to meet you! Welcome to Songstuff! Hemispheres, 2112, moving pictures... all great albums.