Jenn

How to sing with confidence?

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So as it's clearly demonstrated in my demo's... I'm not too good of a singer. I'd like to attribute this to being confined to my dorm room and being worried about being heard.. but I think it's so much more than that. I don't want to be heard, but at the same time, I can't not be heard. I need to sing and I actually end up getting really bad anxiety if I go a couple of days without it.. 

I've performed in front of crowds, and my nerves have gotten better. Most times I can hardly control my pitch/breathing but there have been a couple of times where I was just one with the music. And I've never felt something so.. spiritual for lack of a better word. I gave myself to the song.

The thing is, I know what my voice is capable of. When I'm not in front of people, I actually surprise myself sometimes. But when I go to record myself, I get so scared of what comes out. 

I want it to be like those few times that happened when I performed, because they truly were magical and have the confidence of when it's only just me.

So I guess.. how do you become confident in your voice? 

And also another big question... how do you decide what's a good vocal recording and what isn't? I'll record a lot of vocals and then get frustrated/lose the emotion when I think the track sounds bad, but in reality, it's probably really not bad at all...

 

This was kind of me rambling.. but I'm really tired of feeling this way :( and just need some advice..

Thank you

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Hey Jenn,

I have to be honest with you, it's up to you. There will come a time when your confidence over rides all the insecurities and negative talk in your head (or your nerves) and it'll be good.

I always had stage fright. Then a music teacher told me to change the nervousness I thought I was feeling into excitement. It took a while but I decided to do it because I knew I loved being on stage and singing. I had to overcome or loose.

I realize your in a dorm but you wont be forever. In the mean time, I suggest going to a music store in your area and find a vocal coach. This way once a week you pay for lessons but get to sing!!!

I don't have much advice about recording because I can't stand the sound of my voice (I think that's pretty typical...) In my case I ask people who don't love me to give me there opinion. I ask them to be honest and not just tell me what I want to hear.

I've only heard one of your songs that you posted from your dorm and it sounded like you can capture the melody very well.

I hope I've helped a little bit... I did follow you on soundcloud. :-)

Be Well,

Lisa

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1 minute ago, Lisa Gates said:

Hey Jenn,

I have to be honest with you, it's up to you. There will come a time when your confidence over rides all the insecurities and negative talk in your head (or your nerves) and it'll be good.

I always had stage fright. Then a music teacher told me to change the nervousness I thought I was feeling into excitement. It took a while but I decided to do it because I knew I loved being on stage and singing. I had to overcome or loose.

I realize your in a dorm but you wont be forever. In the mean time, I suggest going to a music store in your area and find a vocal coach. This way once a week you pay for lessons but get to sing!!!

I don't have much advice about recording because I can't stand the sound of my voice (I think that's pretty typical...) In my case I ask people who don't love me to give me there opinion. I ask them to be honest and not just tell me what I want to hear.

I've only heard one of your songs that you posted from your dorm and it sounded like you can capture the melody very well.

I hope I've helped a little bit... I did follow you on soundcloud. :-)

Be Well,

Lisa

i never used to have stage fright.. when i played trumpet, yeah i would be nervous, but as soon as i got the first note, it would be ok from there on out. but my voice is so personal and i think i'm trying to break down that barrier between the outside world and what i'm like in solitude.

i've never thought of myself as a performer or anything, but i can't help but pour passion out of me when i sing alone haha as weird as it sounds. and i think that if i learn how to get comfortable, it would truly be a sight to see. i mean.. i know that's what i love to see in performances.

i think it's just allowing myself to be that vulnerable. 

 

i do take voice lessons, though it's classical and i don't like to sing classically.. 

i've come to get used to the sound of my voice. but the horrible thing with that is that i know when it sounds good and when it sounds bad. and usually i think it's bad... but i'm also my own worst critic.

 

i really just need a place where i can lose all inhibition and get in that space with just me and the song.. 

 

thank you for sharing!

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Hey Jen,

Here's my 2 cents, hope it helps at all.

 

Some are natural born performers, most are not.

That doesnt have to affect ones ability to get on a stage and sing.

 

The one fail proof way to do so, and get better at it, is to perform when ever you can.

 

I wont sugar coat it, you might fail to bring your full potential to the table the couple of first times. And you will probably have moments when you feel akward and insecure and regret the whole thing.

 

How do you handle that?

 

Well, accept it for what it is.

It's ok to fail. You will get better and more confident. Don't care about others opinion of how well you did, those are irrelevant. Shut that critic voice in your head by telling it "well, im doing my best, go away you #/*@$&$&").

 

Remember you are a true hero for putting your feelings to text and have the courage to share them.

 

Rock on...

 

B.T.W - your music is very cool

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Jenn, 

 

Leo is true about acceptance. As soon as the awareness and understanding lands on the fact that at the point of the performance, what you've got is what the people will get, the nervousness wouldn't even matter anymore! I'm not saying that it's easy. Even to this day, I get nervous too until the first step I take on that stage. 

 

Then I just go into a state of mind where it goes "this is it, there's no point worrying about it now, I might as well have a good time while I'm at it." I find a sense of freedom being on stage. To say what I want, express what I want and for that very same "spiritual" point you made, I realize that what people will say doesn't matter anymore. And what I SAY and express does. Whether it sounds good or not. 

 

It doesn't come by telling yourself that. It comes by UNDERSTANDING & REALIZING IT enough to not be bothered by anything else. 

 

I'm not saying it's easy or difficult, but it's something you can build on by setting up that state of mind before every gig and then learning from the experience. 

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Hey Jenn,

 

I'll tell ya what works for me in terms of confidence, the lack of which you can really hear. I started dragging my laptop, microphone, and USB interface into my car, parking it somewhere where nobody is around, and then singing my lungs out where nobody can hear me. This is not as bad of an idea as it sounds. Besides the fact there is a lot of glass for your vocals can bounce off of, your car is one place where you can bet that some attention has been paid to sound treating and acoustics.

 

I also look at every line I sing in Logic's pitch editor after each take. Sometimes my ears don't do a great job of telling me when my pitches are a bit wonky, but I can certainly see it with my eyes. I can see where I scoop up to pitches, and where I'm sharp or flat. I fix it in production, but more importantly I think about the mistakes I make in between takes and try to correct next time.

 

In terms of figuring out when a vocal is "good enough" what I do is record 10 takes of everything and then use Logic's "take folders" to "comp" a take (selecting the best parts of each take to form a composite take) that is as good as I can make it. Logic has a swiping feature that makes this relatively easy (easier than cutting and pasting together little bits of audio anyway). Sometimes I sing on particular part bit of a vocal phrase with more confidence / emotion / style and I like to be able to pick and choose each of the bits that I think are the best. This is tedious work but I think in the end it's worth it.

 

Good luck!

 

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1 hour ago, chumpy said:

Hey Jenn,

 

I'll tell ya what works for me in terms of confidence, the lack of which you can really hear. I started dragging my laptop, microphone, and USB interface into my car, parking it somewhere where nobody is around, and then singing my lungs out where nobody can hear me. This is not as bad of an idea as it sounds. Besides the fact there is a lot of glass for your vocals can bounce off of, your car is one place where you can bet that some attention has been paid to sound treating and acoustics.

 

I also look at every line I sing in Logic's pitch editor after each take. Sometimes my ears don't do a great job of telling me when my pitches are a bit wonky, but I can certainly see it with my eyes. I can see where I scoop up to pitches, and where I'm sharp or flat. I fix it in production, but more importantly I think about the mistakes I make in between takes and try to correct next time.

 

In terms of figuring out when a vocal is "good enough" what I do is record 10 takes of everything and then use Logic's "take folders" to "comp" a take (selecting the best parts of each take to form a composite take) that is as good as I can make it. Logic has a swiping feature that makes this relatively easy (easier than cutting and pasting together little bits of audio anyway). Sometimes I sing on particular part bit of a vocal phrase with more confidence / emotion / style and I like to be able to pick and choose each of the bits that I think are the best. This is tedious work but I think in the end it's worth it.

 

Good luck!

 

i've actually taken my computer with me in my car and done that haha.. funny how we work alike. i was afraid of a cop coming or people walking by... :\

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The problem is that we worry way too much about what others think about us. And the truth is that there's nothing that can be done about what they think about us (singing included) :D:D

 

If you take a moment to think about it and just relax, your natural confidence and singing will take over. You can't please everyone but you can start with pleasing yourself, which would be the most difficult if you are your worst critic (I struggle with this, too). And this is where acceptance comes in. There's an audience for every kind of artist... you have your place, too. Just work on yourself and have fun along the way :)

 

 

 

 

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On 5/16/2017 at 9:28 AM, Sreyashi Mukherjee said:

The problem is that we worry way too much about what others think about us. And the truth is that there's nothing that can be done about what they think about us (singing included) :D:D

 

If you take a moment to think about it and just relax, your natural confidence and singing will take over. You can't please everyone but you can start with pleasing yourself, which would be the most difficult if you are your worst critic (I struggle with this, too). And this is where acceptance comes in. There's an audience for every kind of artist... you have your place, too. Just work on yourself and have fun along the way :)

 

 

 

 

it's kind of gotten to the point where i've stopped caring about singing in front of people.. but i still definitely keep it quiet. but maybe that will change soon too.. and i'll be singing full volume :D

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