Pipes1975

I don't read enough intros. That was a nice. Welcome Jeanie. Any rainbows come out of the rain yet .

I appreciate the comments. But I have 2 problems with this older lyrics I wrote: #1 - it's not original, I just revised a song #2 - I only looked at the negative side of 'Living for Me' - there should be a part 2 that is all positive But I'm more into my own stuff now, so I doubt I'll reuse this - it served it's purpose on my journey, when I only saw one side of things!

I'm fairly new, and this thread is fairly old, but if this ever starts back up, I'll give it a try! Although, I'll warn now - I sometimes have trouble writing about things if I don't feel them. Saw the last onme was from June, and not many replies, so I figured I'd mention my interest here - I think a few of the other newbies would likely give it a try to - although I sometimes need more than a week - every 2 weeks (or even a month) might work better for me . I think the Pheonix Coyotes would make a good topic right now seeing that Betman thinks the NHLs $160 million to keep a team in a market that is failing is worth more then Mr Blackberries $240 million to put a team in a successful market!!!! Reason - Betman doesn't want to upset Toronto ownership by allowing another team so close, that would sell tickets at a reasonable price opposed to Torontos ridiculas prices! Could also hurt Buffalo (although Buffalo is nothing to do with Betmans agenda). I think it's ridiculas that Betman took all the Canadian teams away, and than changed the policy so smaller markets would get help. Where was the help when Winnipeg and Quebec needed it? Both Winnipeg and Quebec can easily support a team, but both needed new arenas - both moved to the states. How many California teams make money? How many unsuccessful franchises does Betman need in the US before we can bring hockey back home where its appreciated? (I'm Canadian, I love hockey when I'm not dreamin - lol, I don't hate anyone, but I dislike Betman quite a bit, or at least I dislike his ideas.)

This is when I have fun revising a song already a hit! Basically, I'll take a song that I like the flow and feel, but where the lyrics didn't hit home for me, and I'll start changing the lyrics to better suit me. I know it won't be usable, but its easier for me to change words when the emotions are already in front of me - so I've done this plenty of times when I was having trouble with my own original works. I actually got one of those in the poet critique - 'Living for Me' revised from 'Hero of War' by Rise Against. 'Hero of War' is a very emotional song with amazing lyrics, but since I have never been a soldier, and don't know too many soldiers, it didn't hit me hard enough, it felt like I was observing other blind people, when I know I'm part of the blind!!! So I changed the lyrics to reflect my blindness. It really seemed to help, as I wrote my next original about a week afterward. I tend to take a small break first though(probably smoke a joint or 2 too, lol), if I'm still having difficulty when I get back into writing, thats when I do my revising just to help keep the pen moving and my mind working. It's a cheesey trick that has helped me - it helps me get more emotional sometimes too, as I don't always let all my emotions go - but when revising, and the emotions are already presented, I seem to let go a little easier too!

You want to relate to your audience, and you need to have emotion. Those are the biggest factors when picking a subject, and that can lead to all the topics you mentioned in the OP. I'm more about recognizing problems, finding common goals, unconditional love (as oppose to the more traditional love we have that always comes with conditions), a better future, unity, against all forms of seperation (including war, nationalities, religion, strong beliefs, etc..) - I dream, and my lyrics are free thoughts without boundaries. I'm all about opening eyes and freeing minds. However, when I get going deep into some meaningful lyrics, I still need to relate to the audience, and hook them, before I can expect them to think ! The meaning behind my lyrics, and getting others to ask questions, are both much more important to me than making money off my lyrics.

Since I only write lyrics, and I have never made a song, I think I do have more freedom with my writing than someone that is writing music for his/her band. Some of my lyrics come off as slow and soft, others loud and aggressive. Some are full of love, others full of anger. Some sound simple enough, that I could probably sing them, others sound like Disturbed meats Ozzy, and I can't transform what I hear in my head out loud to others. I think most writers do write more than one style, but when they are writing for a band, the lyrics that get noticed are the ones the band plays - so unless the band can come at you with multiple different styles - generally one genre is settled in on. This is all my opinion, nothing more.

With me, I should first note, I only write lyrics, I don't make music. When I write lyrics, I'm no longer functioning in the world. I enter a dream like state, where my mind wanders freely without restrictions. I write nearly all my verses alone and I try to give them deep meaning. I don't write when I'm on a time limit or when I got to go function imediately after, so I tend to do most of my writing late at night, after my daily routines are over, . My choruses are sometimes much different than my verses. Some of my choruses have come from bouncing stuff off buddies, everday events, a tempo that got stuck in my head, common stuff others can relate to, and/or just random conversations. I find my best lyrics are the ones that have the catchy chorus already in my head, than when I got time to dream, I can go do up the verses.

I should have put this in the lyrics forum, not poetry - ops Hope I still get some readers and/or coments .

thanx I've been looking for a place to share my lyrics for awhile - I hope I found the right place!

Pretty good poem. I paticularly enjoyed these 2 lines: Now it hurts to strum the well known chords, it all comes crashing down. Miles and miles of stone and steel. A shattered ghostly town.

Before I give these lyrics I need to mention where they come from. This is revised from 'Hero of War' by Rise Against. Although the lyrics to 'Hero of War' were already amazing, they were somewhat limitting. I've never been a soldier! So I changed the lyrics to better suit me, but kept all the same emotions the song was meant to make me feel . These lyrics represent me having a conversation with the old man I'm afraid I will one day become! I hope you enjoy, here are my lyrics: Living For me (revised from 'Hero of War' from Rise Against) I said sir, Have you always been blind? Did you question your faith? What truth did you find? Do beliefs, control you so much, that you can't free your mind? He said I tried, But no answers were found, The more questions I had, The more my mind spun round, So I grabbed hold, of something strong to believe, that I could take to the ground. I was living for me, Their's no unity, And if our lives are controlled, How can we be free? I never did know, What direction to go, So I gave into the greed, To feed my ego. And then, I worked 9 to 5, Hated the routine, But that's how I'd survive, Money, would motivate me, it's what gave me my drive, Others expense, Is where I'd find success, And if that caused any grief, Well I couldn't care less, Was too consumed, with what revolved around me, I never thought of progress. I was living for me, Their's no unity, And if our lives are controlled, How can we be free? I never did know, What direction to go, So I gave into the greed, To feed my ego. So now, As I'm looking back, I can't figure out, How I got on the wrong track, But emotions, get triggered inside, when my beliefs are attacked, Peace, And Harmony, Were once dreams of mine, That I can no longer see, One time, I was so full of Love, whatever happened to me? I was living for me, I was too blind to see, But I'd give it all up, Just to taste unity, I never did know, What direction to go, I lead myself astray, A long time ago. I said sir, Have you always been blind? Did you question your faith? What truth did you find?

W^ everyone About me, well I'm a dreamer that sometimes enjoys writing poetry. My best lyrics actually come from revising songs that are already done! I have a reason for this, and it's quite simple really, but I'm not a musician, so if I can feel the emotions and hear the beat/tempo, then I can change any lyrics to better fit my experiences. Some songs have such strong emotions, but I can't always relate to the lyrics, my experiences are limitted to what I've done in my life, and their are many things I have not experienced!!! My lyrics are for personal satisfaction, I've never tried nor expected to make money off my lyrics. Revising songs already done is what I enjoy most, but I do have a few of my own as well, and I realize if I ever wanted to step out of my amateur shell, I would need to focus more on original works instead of revisions! Well, I really don't know what else to say, I was just looking for a place to post lyrics/poems Peace, Pipes75