[How Much Time Do You Spend On Music]

That's actually a very good question & I imagine you'll get a wide range of answers.

In my case, I'm an amatuer....a hobbiest, but it's also in my nature to get a little carried away with things I love. When I decided to reinvolve myself in musical stuff a few years back, I made myself a promise not to neglect the real-life obligations that come with being an adult......& for the most part, I don't! Like many folks, I've got a job, a home to maintain, finances to be dealt with, family obligations, aged parents, etc. Whatever's left.......that's what I spend on things music related. I phrased it that way because, unfortunately that also has to include, website maint., practice time, changing guitar strings, writing, mixing & editing, online forum participation...pretty much everything musical. Every time I start to get a little frustrated that I'm not able to move some of these things along faster.....I remind myself of that promise & how glad I am just to be doing something. Anyway....that's me.

Tom

Absolutely. I think you have a great attitude about it. It's important to live a well rounded life, especially if you have family and financial obligations. I also sort of draw the line at 2-3 hrs a day songwriting/guitar practice (on average).

[How Much Time Do You Spend On Music]

I'm guessing there are a fair number of folks like me in this forum - people who work 40 hours a week, but enjoy songwriting and musical activities in their free time. I was just wondering how much time you personally devote to songwriting and general musical activities per week. As for me, I spend probably too much time - averaging about 20 hours a week, which is pretty much all of my free time.

[Anyone Try Songframe?]

Hey

I think it looks interesting. Like indie it looks aimed at short cutting the process, but still leaves all the control with the writer. I didn't notice sample libraries either, more like a midi library of standard chord progressions and drum patterns, the latter of which you usually get with a DAW anyway. There are lots of standard chord progressions, and here I think is the true aid, in that it simply shortcuts that element of theory to make it easier for the writer. All useful stuff. A few features looked interesting and a few not so interesting.

I don't know if the drum patterns can be edited after inserting them, that would certainly make it less rigid. I see this as being a step between playing your guitar and singing and a full recording. It doesn't look like it has the versatility to turn out a full, polished song, but that's not the point... it's for creating drafts.

I can see this being a real value add for new songwriters as yet unaware of possibilities and lacking experience, in terms of a short cut... what is not clear is if there is a theoretical back drop of any sort, my guess is no... because then it would also be and educational aid. For more experienced writers I doubt it offers much more than a pad, pencil and a handy recorder... the obvious exception being that the output of the process can be imported into a DAW. Question is, how effective is it? Does it add to the process by adding another iteration or not? Is it in the end useful or wasted time?

I've not used it, but would be interested in exploring it to see it's true value, but it at least looks interesting to me.

Cheers

John

They give you a copy of EZDrummer lite with the software, which I think allows for greater control of drum patterns, possibly editing - not sure, never used. They say other VST and AU's can appear natively in Songframe. Those patterns are just to have a rhythmic frame to do your composition with anyways - they're meant as a rough guide until you export your song to your DAW, where you can put a real rhythm track on it.

The other thing that looks interesting is the Songframe song is exported to the DAW with markers to denote the various 'songbits'. I like how everything - even lyrics - is in one place. I never liked having to keep lyrics and notes in another application or a notebook apart from musical stems.

[Anyone Try Songframe?]

Those chord progressions aren't sample libraries or loops, they're more like suggestions and can be customized or ignored.

[Anyone Try Songframe?]

Put into a box? This software allows for free form composition.

[Anyone Try Songframe?]

What? There's no sample library other than some drum loops.

[Anyone Try Songframe?]

What is SongFrame?

SongFrame is the song development toolkit designed to provide songwriters and recording musicians an integrated and comprehensive set of tools for writing and refining songs. In addition to serving as an overall notebook for a songwriter's ideas, SongFrame allows the user to construct songs using drag & drop icons representing song structure elements and then fully develop every aspect of the song within these. SongFrame is used before the songwriter ever fires up his or her Digital Audio Workstation (DAW) recording or sequencing software. As the name implies - SongFrame creates the framework, foundation and superstructure of a song prior to the recording, arrangement and production process. Think of SongFrame as a "pre-DAW" or a songwriting front-end to your existing recording or sequencing setup.

http://www.tanageraudioworks.com/Products/SongFrame

looks interesting, was wondering if anyone has tried it.

[Hello Songstuff]

Merry Christmas! I'm from Chicago. I'm mainly into acoustic fingerstyle music. I'm here to learn about recording and songwriting.

[Hello Songstuff]

This is my first topic. I'm a new user. This forum looks really cool and informative! Peace to all!