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    The pros and cons of mixing at 44.1 KHz 16-bit

    in Music Production and Recording

    Posted · Edited by HoboSage

    The 32-Bit Float audio recording revolution and its HUGE headroom before clipping (making clipping and gain staging for it a thing of the past) is underway.  DAWs and VSTs have been using it a long time for internal processing.  Zoom may have have been first out of the gate with a consumer audio interface - this one:.  

     

    https://www.amazon.com/Zoom-UAC-232-Converter-Interface-Headphone/dp/B0BW1VDHNS/ref=asc_df_B0BW1VDHNS/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=647293221758&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9200862543381157809&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9009415&hvtargid=pla-1968708094295&psc=1&mcid=df63d616fb4f3e5bbf09b08b69b770d6

     

     

    Hello everybody

    in Introduce Yourself

    Posted

    On 5/26/2023 at 8:46 PM, Palmiro said:

     Still, nobody can forbid us to have fun with it, just like you do here... S

     

    WTF?  I'm supposed to be having fun doing music?  Hmm.  I must be doing it wrong. 

     

    Welcome to my nightmare, Palmiro.  :)

     

    David

    Plagiarizing

    in Musician's Lounge

    Posted · Edited by HoboSage

    The Google app for Android or iOS has Google Voice Assistant that you activate by clicking the microphone icon in the Google search window, or by simply saying "Hey Google."  After that, ask "What song is this?" or click on "search song" if that icon comes up.  Then hum or sing da-d-a-das (that's what I do) of the melody in question for 10-15 seconds.  After "listening," Google Voice Assistant will display known songs matching that melody.  It can be pretty useful.

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    Rick Beato "The Top 10 songs are sh*t".

    in Musician's Lounge

    Posted

    8 minutes ago, Pantonal said:

    I think it's important to note here that Rick is not an artist. He's a former producer who has become an influencer on Youtube. As an influencer his opinion is what he offers. People watch his videos because they have come to respect his opinion. This particular video offers some strong opinions on the Top Ten Songs globally. Most are negative but some are actually positive and I don't think anyone who watches Rick's videos would feel differently regarding the opinions he has expressed. Personally, I agree with the opinions he expressed. So, to Hobosage, Rick's opinions are how he earns his living, so not expressing them would not support his lifestyle. The world is full of non artist critics because there are people who care what they think.

    He's a musical artist.  If you're a musician, record producer and songwriter - you're a musical artist.   https://artists.teamwass.com/music/rick-beato/  So, let's agree to disagree about that.

     

    I have watched and liked many of his videos.  I think he crossed the line here - regardless of whether he did it to make money.

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    Rick Beato "The Top 10 songs are sh*t".

    in Musician's Lounge

    Posted · Edited by HoboSage

    He's entitled to his opinions.  But, I think he should have kept them to himself and to private discussions with others.  This went way beyond analysis: He was trashing these songs.  I personally find it very distasteful when a musical artist publicly trashes the creative works of other musical artists.  Millions of people love these songs.  He's insulting them too.  The world is full of non-artist art critics.  We shouldn't be criticizing the works of each other unless criticism by peers is being asked for.  Anyway, that's how I feel.

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    Would You Recommend Songstuff?

    in Site Stuff

    Posted

    No worries, Greg.  I just wanted to clarify why I am not posting for critique, and I appreciate you clarifying what you were saying.  You were talking about  . . . for lack of a better term . . . drive-by-posters looking only to get without giving back. :)

     

    David

    Home recording - what's in it for me?

    in Music Production and Recording

    Posted · Edited by HoboSage

    On 4/8/2023 at 8:43 AM, MisterB said:

    I should follow my own advice here, but I think keeping things in check with reference material is great. I wish I hadn't got rid of all my CD's, because the 16-20kHz would have been useful in checking references.  

     

    I wonder if many people have the same problem as I have - objectivity in your own mixing. This is where a mentor is useful. I've never had one, and its the biggest issue I've ever had in music production over the many years that I've been doing it. People are often unwilling to tell you the truth too. When something is bad, it would be great if people would tell you that it is, and what you can do to fix it. Not having this certainly limits your ability to progress with confidence in your own ability. 

     

    Your mixes sound damn good, Bro.  You don't need a "mentor" for mixing.  Your ears are all you need.  Trust them.  Your sound choices though are another matter - a B3?  WTF? <heh-heh>  I couldn't resist.  :)  What's next, a Fender Rhodes?  <ducking while yankin' your chain> ;)

     

    David

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    Would You Recommend Songstuff?

    in Site Stuff

    Posted

    For those of you who don't know, this is my second go round as a member here. I was a very active member here years ago. and I can't help but be surprised that many of you seem to think that the critique forums here are currently quite "active."  From my perspective, compared to how they used to be, the critique forums seem like graveyards.  :)  Anyway . . . I feel I need to address this from Greg.

    On 2/9/2023 at 11:25 AM, Greg M said:

    When I first joined, I felt as though I was being put in my place a few times by more established members. One of the sections that allows you to post your best recordings seemed to dominated by a few individuals who I didn't tend to come across elsewhere, and the songs are not open to critique but often don't seem to have been posted elsewhere. A bit elitist.

     

    I think that it is a bit unfair to exclude people from posting songs simply because they don't have access to top quality recording equipment. I went through quite a lot of those songs when I first joined, and I didn't think that a lot of them were any better than some of my songs, they were just better quality recordings. 

     

    Maybe there could be another page for artists to post songs that, although not brilliant recordings, meet a specific level of recording quality. Then you might see a lot more of the songs that go through the development stages on the critiquing pages finding their way onto a page for finished recordings.

     

    I am only posting my stuff in the Showcase.  I am not posting my stuff in a critique forum  But, Greg, I am not an "elitist."  I am simply being true to myself.

     

    I have been writing, playing, and recording music for a long, long, long time.  When I first joined here, I was just starting to re-engage with music after a long hiatus from it.  All I had in terms of gear back then was a cheap acoustic guitar, a mic, and Reaper to record.  I was still able to write good songs, but my arrangements and recordings were rudimentary.  Over time, I steadily upgraded my guitars, my DAW, my mic, etc.  I'm not in band where I have the opinions of bandmates to consider.  I don't collaborate, so I don't have the opinions of collaborators to consider.  I am now at the point where music, including the recording of it, is something that's solely between me, my muse, and the universe of sounds. I  don't post in the critique forum, simply because I have also come to the point where I can be honest with myself, and know that I sincerely do not care what anyone else thinks of my work.  You think I should change this part of my lyrics?  I don't care. :) You think this aspect of my arrangement or this mixing choice I made is problematic?  I don't care. :)  It would only be counterproductive for me and for the critique forum to post my stuff in a critique forum here.

     

    However, if I think I might have something constructive to offer, I will still comment on stuff others post in a critique forum here.  I will also participate in discussions of things here if I think I might have something to contribute.  But, for my work, all I want to do is archive it and share it.  I don't think that makes me an elitist.  I certainly don't feel that way or have that mindset.  However, if John/Songstuff thinks I come off that way and that's not the type of member it wants, that's cool.  I will understand.  Just let me know, and I'll stop Showcasing my stuff.  :)

     

    Thanks,

    David

     

     

     

     

    A Mastering Question

    in Musician's Lounge

    Posted · Edited by HoboSage

    It kind of depends on what your final recording is intended for.  Some final mastering is always a good idea if you're doing a CD/album/EP of multiple songs so that all songs end up in the same general volume and EQ ballpark.  Otherwise, the listener will want to be making volume and/or EQ playback adjustments from song to song.

     

    Even with single songs though, if you'll be uploading to online streaming platforms, you'll want to be sure that your final mixes don't much exceed -14 LUFS on average, and don't have too many true peaks above -1 db.  Otherwise the platform's algorithm will f*ck with your mix.  :)  Because, like you, my track mixing makes the overall mix pretty much already there, that's usually all I do for final "mastering"  -  and that's typically accomplished with one plugin using presets. The exceptions are those recordings where I have lost the DAW mix files and only have a stereo rendering to work with.  Then, I might have to get much more creatively involved in doing things to the stereo track to get it to a point where I'm content to live with it.

     

    But, always keep in mind, the most important person you need to be satisfied with your mix is you.

     

    David

     

     

    Wise words

    in Musician's Lounge

    Posted · Edited by HoboSage

    Yeah.  Ricky Nelson said it Garden Party back in 1972.

     

    But it's all right now
    I learned my lesson well
    You see, you can't please everyone
    So you got to please yourself

     

    Of course, The Bard said it way back when: "To thine own self, be true."

     

    It took me awhile to get to this point as an "artist."   

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    Idea to boost engagement and retention

    in Site Stuff

    Posted · Edited by HoboSage

    Though I am not such a member, I do believe other members here do more creative works than just write a song or write song lyrics, or record music and music videos.  I for one would like the Showcase to be opened up to let members post their other works of art to share without looking for a critique - their paintings, poetry, photographs, non-music videos, short stories, pottery, jewelry, candles, and other fine arts and creative "stuff."  But please, for the love of god, ban slide shows of family vacations!  Those might give me bad flashbacks of being forced to sit through my dad's boring slideshows as a kid. :)

     

    David

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    How many of you songwriters out there also produce and mix your own songs? If not, why and would you consider learning how to mix songs down the line?

    in Songwriting

    Posted · Edited by HoboSage

    4 hours ago, Destrukto said:

    I do record and mix my own songs. However, it goes against the advice that I received in a music production course which is that it is generally better to get an outside ear to mix your music to take away the personal connection and provide an impartial mix. 

     

    Not surprising advice coming from a "music production course."  I personally think it's kind of sad that they seem to want to convince you that an "impartial mix" by someone feeling no personal connection with the music is somehow a good thing, and that you shouldn't trust your own ears.  

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