Kel
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Challenge accepted and writing completed... do we post in here in in the main critique section?
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I forgot about this thread until I was email notificated about a new reply.
I've been digging around on YouTube looking for Genesis songs I haven't heard before and I came across the one line I am kicking myself for not thinking up. It goes:
"Naminanu naminanu naminu naminanu. Naminanu naminanu naminanu naminanu." I can't remember the title of the song. I think it's called "Naminanu" but I could be wrong. And yes, this is a real song by Genesis. Fortunately it was only ever released as a B side to the best of my knowledge.
That ranks right up there with "Obli di, obla da..." and "Da do run run run, da do run run"
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Given we only have a finite number of notes to work with, and a less difinitive number of associations anyone may consider pleasing, it is probable that at some stage we will write what has already been written. We can't know every piece of music already written.
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I have a sense of deja vu ! (see post #14)
LOL It must be true then!
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Burt Bacharach once told Hal David, "Nobody walks down the street whistling the lyrics!"
Poor Hal.
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hi Kel
unfair jibe.
Some of us think of the words while we're whistling.
Can't agree more, Rudi.
K
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Burt Bacharach once told Hal David, "Nobody walks down the street whistling the lyrics!"
Poor Hal.
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was there the other day! Dang!!!
There you go, Lisa... just for you! xx
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Hey Bro... Choice!
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Look who is back out of hiding!
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Interesting. I guess it may upset a few folk who obsess about sustain. A guitar maker maker once told me that the neck was principally responsible for sustain.
BTW, I am more than happy to be shown that I am unusual (& wrong) about the neck finish. It may well be that most people do not fully release grip.
Metal produces sustain, surely. A metal nut will replicate a metal fret and a metal bridge will have more sustain than a nylon or wooden one. Also having the pickups closer to the strings has to help. Makes sense to me, but I'm no expert.
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What is making your songs long? Is it the lyrics, the tempo, or the musical interludes? There are ways to address all of these. If its the lyrics, are you telling too much of the story? Are you using superfluous words or phrases? Are you saying the same thing multiple times? Its easy to be verbose and taking a critical look at your lyrics is a good place to start.
Tempo is also a fickle beast. I've writtn more than a few songs at a slower tempo than they ended up.
Interludes... do they support the lyrics or do the lyrics support them? Do you need that 2 minute shredding guitar solo? Really?
Just a few questions to ask yourself.
Cheers,
Kel
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Agreed, it has to feel right
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thanks for your input guys
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Hi all,
I'm coming into some inheritance money, and thinking I'll get myself something I've never been able to afford: a real Fender Telecaster.
Question is, should I get an old one with a few miles and concerts under it's belt, or a new one off the shelf?
I'm not much of a player, and performing isn't my thing... it's more that I've always wanted one.
Question is, new or used?
Cheers,
Kel
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I think the general theme is what the chorus is all about. What the verses need to do is tell us what we don't know.
Who is the song about?
What are they doing/ have they done / are thinking about doing?
What is the conflict that they need to solve?
How are they going to do whatever they are going to do?
Why are they doing whatever they are going to do?
When are they going to do it?
What are they hoping the outcome will be?
Who else is involved?
and the list goes on....
Kel
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People.
What people do.
What people say.
How people interact with things, animate and inanimate.
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I enjoy writing.
But that doesn't mean I don't want to write songs for the sake of it.
For me, songs are for the audience, whoever that will be. My role therefore, is to give them what they expect, that is fresh and new. What an audience expects is genre driven, and I tend to write in the genre I prefer to listen to. Makes homework so much more enjoyable! I'd love the money that a pop hit may spin, but please don't make me listen to it! Nup, won't work!!!
I'll be the first to say I don't get there anywhere near enough. However, in order to even get to an end-consumer audience, any song has to get past an even more critical audience, be that a publisher, producer or artist (unless you are a singer songwriter, and anyone who has heard me sing knows I definitely do not fill that role!).
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Is sarcasm an emotion? Oh I hope so!
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There is an old expression, that nobody whistles a lyric as they walk down the street.
However, they do think them, or at least I do. I don't regard myself a performer, or a player of note, so I guess to me the lyrics are more important than the music. If the words suck, I don't bother with the music, but if the music sucks, I don't bother with the words, no matter how good they may be.
It's a balance. And I think it always has been.
Kel
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There was a band down here during the nineties called "The Far Gone Beauties" (say it quickly) and they did a Bluegrass version of absolutely everything. However they were stumped in a challenge on radio once when it was suggested they banjo up "Midnight Oil's US Forces!
Kel
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yep that's him. He recorded one album, (most songs written my Harry Vanda & George Young (Easybeats) had 2 singles that went to #1 and then slept with a 15yo fan club member and the record company dropped him.
Sang at pubs and clubs under his real name for a while and ended up homeless and living in a sports venue's ticket booth. Was found by a rock and roll do gooder and helped out some what but he died an old and lonely man.
Rock and roll ain't always glitz and glamour!
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I think you may be thinking of Nick Cave, of Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. He has made a name for himself.
I don't think they are related but the guy I was talking about had fleeting success in the mid 70s and was never heard from again.
Kel
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Your mission, should you choose to accept it is to select someone, or something, that seemed unassailable, a household name, at their peak, and describe the cataclysmic turn of events that brought them low.
I really don't understand this... can someone help me out?
As an example, Elvis Presley. He was certainly an A List celebrity in an age before we had A Lists and he was certainly on top of the world and a household name. However his constant battle with prescription medicines and banana fritters brought him to ruin.
More recently, Amy Winehouse may be an example of self destructiveness.
OJ Simpson - well he may no longer have been a household name but he certainly became one.
I recently read of the demise of a guy named John Cave... okay nobody knows that name, but we was almost the lead singer of AC/DC (instead of Bon Scott) and he had a couple of hit records down here in Australia under a stage name until he ... well thereby hangs a story!
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Lyrics Writing Challenge #22 - Summer Hit
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Nothin' In My Way
I got my board up top
And the windows down,
Radio's playing summer sounds
And I'm feelin' good,
And feelin' good's, good enough for me.
Get my girl
Take her by the hand,
Party all night
On the fine white sand,
As the stars come out to play,
It's the summer time
And there's nothin' in my way.
I'm in the big show now
As the sets roll through,
Sou'Wester bringin' curls and tubes
And I'm ridin' free,
And ridin' free's good enough for me.
Get my girl
Take her by the hand,
Party all night
On the fine white sand,
As the stars come out to play,
It's the summer time
And there's nothin' in my way.
My old man's sayin'
Autumn is a bummer,
But I have plans
For an endless summer!
Get my girl
Take her by the hand,
Party all night
On the fine white sand,
As the stars come out to play,
It's the summer time
And there's nothin' in my way.