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    Test Your Hearing- Age Matters

    in Music Production and Recording

    Posted

    The thought occurs that unless the people doing these tests have a real shit hot set of reference monitors that are certified flat up to 20KHz, it's quite possibly the speakers and not the ears that are causing the inability to hear sixteen kilohertz.

    Yeh, I thought of that except my 16 yr old son covers his ears in pain and I hear absolutely nothing? I agree though, I might be able to here a little higher on better speakers

    Pa System - Need Advice

    in Performance

    Posted

    I use a yamahaha DTXpress drumkit. I like it lots, it's much better than a programmed drum machine IMHO, and at the end of the day you can update the module if you like the kit itself. I'm not sure about mesh pads as mine is rubber. Did you get this kit yet? From my research it looks like a winner...

    One tip, makes sure he puts the brain module out of harms way, I whacked mine pretty good a few times and it has developed brain damage

    Yep, went with the roland and even I am having fun on it.

    LOL, Brain damage. Yeh we noticed that to so I sort of tucked it in between the HH and Crash. Hopefully it will be safe there.. They should put a raised foam edge about 1 inch high around the perimeter of it. At least that would reduce the risk a bit.

    Pa System - Need Advice

    in Performance

    Posted

    Hey

    Your logic about getting a system that can double for small gigs too is a good one. When you say electronic drums do you mean a drum machine or am electronic kit? I would think a drum machine would be good although I would probably be more tempted by a portable sequencer and a separate sound module. that way you can create drum patterns and other synthesized sounds.

    If you are buying a PA system I would also look at getting some effects either built into the console or as a separate outboard.

    Cheers

    John

    Went and got the Roland TD-3 Kit and its very good so far. Well built IMHO.

    My son plays guitar and needed the drums so he can rehearse at home once he finds a drummer. Will use it for recording as well. He also plays drums.

    So now we are thinking something along the lines of behringer B-215A active speakers and a 8 to 12 channel mixer. Also could buy some used rentals Yorkville NX55P for about $550.000 each at long and mcquade. Would either of these be ok for a small to medium room 100-175 people. We would likely run drums , 1 lead guitar, bass and vocals through them.

    Could add a sub but I am thinking the 15 inch speakers will be ok for now.

    Any thoughts?

    Pa System - Need Advice

    in Performance

    Posted

    Looking at setting up a rehearsal area in the basement for my son to practice, write and possibly basic recording. Need to keep things fairly low volume . he is buying a Roland TD-3 kit to continue writing his own songs as he plays pretty much as well as his drummer did

    Here is my thinking, please set me straight if this sounds goofy.

    What he has so far.

    Gibson SG Standard

    Zoom G2 effects pedal

    Crate Tube amp

    Shure SM58 mic

    Boss RC-20 Loop station

    Zoom H4 recorder

    Roland TD-3 kit next month

    Now as for a PA system, I am thinking powered speakers and a mixer as opposed to powered mixer and speakers.

    Want something inexpensive that will sound good in a small room at home. BUT, I am thinking that it would also make sense to get something that would be capable of playing for a small room of 200-300 people. I hear that a lot of guys wont use electronic drums live but for a small gig in apinch a cant see why not. Could probably achieve a great sound overall in a lounge setting.

    Would 500 to 600 watt speakers be enough and say a 12 channel mixer. Been looking at Yorkville - NX55P 550 Watt 1x12inch Powered PA Cabinet and maybe a behringer mixer. Would the behringer speakers compare. they seem a lot cheaper.

    Please let me know if I am on the right track. I really know nothing about this stuff.

    thanks

    Misinterpreted Song Lyrics

    in Musician's Lounge

    Posted

    of course. Context is everything.

    As I said before, concider the song 'Spanish Eyes'

    An old fashioned romantic balad. Now suppose for example, that it was written by a canibal?

    Yep, I agree with your point.

    There are some songs that I can see might make a difference but only the ones that I listen to specifically for the picture , image , or memories that are triggered by the lyrics and thus might be altered with information to the contrary. In My case however, those songs are very rare.

    And by the way, I absolutely love spanish cooking

    A Challenge To Songstuff Lyricists And Songwriters...

    in Songwriting

    Posted

    Hi

    I've seen lots of really good lyrics on Songstuff and heard lots of really good music too. Looking over the work posted here I see lots of negative emotions expressed song, but few positive ones, and those few tend to be related to love....

    John

    I believe your observation is universal. particularily in the Pop/rock/metal/country genres

    Is it genres..........genre.....moose..mooses :)

    Seeking Opinions On Technique

    in Performance

    Posted

    Listen to Finn!

    Colbat, once your boy gets on the stage you'll have a hard time getting him off.

    Yep. You are so right .they have played to 200+ crowd and he was pumped.

    He would play every weekend if he could. Needs to decide whether to get another drummer as they havent rehearsed in 2 months due to level of committment. I might fill in :) been 20 yrs but with a little practice who knows. Thats another story though and posted in another topic.

    Seeking Opinions On Technique

    in Performance

    Posted

    Here's Granny w/ her cane saying young man, I been playing 145 years and my first pro band

    when I was 17, knew what they were about getting me who was 10 and up to 20 years younger

    than various band members. I was fresh outta high school.

    Their very mild manner of encouragment took me from drummer to lead singing drummer. That's quite a step,

    and I mention it to illustrate how a fertile musical enviornment can make a young musician to soar!

    There's just no way to get experience but by getting it. You'll be OK - unless maybe you remain not playing w/ others. That'd

    be a world of regret, over time. And not necessary at all!

    PS: the 1st band I was in, at 13 or 14 as an adjunct drummer/b/u singer, played the 2112 album in toto. I still very much like Yes,

    ELP, all of that.

    PPS: let us know how it goes when you begin jamming w/ others.

    your right

    I took my son and his bass player to a blues bar this afternoon.They have an open stage every saturday. Today was primarily guys jamming mainly Rhythm and blues and some great soloing. Some weeks there are a few kids get up but not this week.

    Christian was intimidated needless to say. Bar was full and all the jamming was seasoned musicians.

    Well, the guitars stayed in the trunk of the car as i suspected they would ,but after leaving , they both agreed it was something they wanted to do.

    So next weekend or maybe the wekend after we will go again. I told Christian he could play a Nirvana cover or something like that and if his bass player comes they can play a couple of their originals. I assured him that the host drummer will do just fine even with their originals.

    We will see what happens :-/

    Struggling To Get People In

    in Music Industry

    Posted

    I hate to say this, but the problem is most likely that people have not heard of you. Take six months or so and open for the biggest bands you can find. Prepare a demo and press kit and give it to them. Tell them you'll play for free. Take any show you can within a drivable range. Then get a booking agent and stop opening for local bands. Now you can open for national bands. Taking an approach like this sucks because it means you'll get shitty sound, often no sound check and other niceties. But if you're half-way decent your talent will outshine the limitations. Once your name is out there and you start playing shows where people come to see you, you can have a good sound system, an experienced engineer, etc. It's very tough to start out running.

    Please dont scream at me for what I am about to say. I am not a musician but my son is. He is still in highschool so when he arranged a gig , contacted 3 other bands who had a bit of a fanbase themselves. I promoted it for them with posters and using facebook. They sold tickets for 5 bucks at school. They ended paying for the venue, $250.00 and paid each band 60 bucks.

    The next time my son went to that venue to watch some other bands, 2 people walked up and asked if Catalyst was playing not knowing he was the frontman.

    ok so now heres the part that might bug a few folks.

    I enjoy music live. I will go to a bar specifically to see a band but for me personally , the initial draw is covers. I want to hear covers.

    I will develop a taste for their originals but the initial reason for me taking the time to go see them is because they cover some songs i really like and they do it well.

    there was a band here about 15 yrs ago would do a rush tribute set then all originals. Tribute was the first set. People were lined up.

    Once they were in, seated, drinking, they would stay. After seeing them a couple times I began to like some of their originals and would look forward to hearing them. I would have bought them as singles at the time but hey, this was 15 yrs ago.

    So You Think Spelling Is Important?

    in Musician's Lounge

    Posted

    Hi

    I got tihs in an eaiml and touhght you mghit lkie it....

    fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo are one of olny 55 plepoe out of 100 taht can.

    i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frs it and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

    :D

    Jhon

    Don't think this is correct grammar either

    Gig Prices

    in Musician's Lounge

    Posted

    I think they are a little overpriced.

    I know there is a lot that goes into a big show but I cant help but wonder if there isnt too many hands in the pot and if the shares of revenues tend to be a bit lopsided.

    Beginner Recording

    in Music Production and Recording

    Posted

    thanks

    Yep, it came with cubase and I can see that it will be quite a learning curve. For us at least. Actually I really dont think the unit was ever used. It was in the box and even the accessories were in the bag with what looked like a factory seal.

    After doing some research , Christian bought a SM58 as it seemed like the best all around for the price. we will get something better in the future for recording but he needed something better for his live stuff anyway so this will do for now until we learn more.

    Beginner Recording

    in Music Production and Recording

    Posted

    Hi

    I am attempting to record some of my sons songs . At this point we are just learning and will probably acquire some equipment in the near future. In the meantime, I picked up a Zoom H4 a few weeks ago at a pawn shop for 175.00 canadian in order to record his bands live stuff and sync it with the video camera so they could analyse themselves.

    When I got it home, my kid took it into his room and in a very short time figured out how to record tracks so he used the drum effect on his G2 pedal and recorded 3 tracks with his guitar. I didnt know it at the time when I bought it but he was able to mix the tracks on the H4 as well.

    Has anyone used one of these before? I thought it was quite impressive.. I know we will have to invest in some quality gear but If anyone has used one I would be very interested to know just how good a recording one can achieve with this device if one knew what they were doing..

    Here is what he put together as a test in about 30 minutes.

    Lyrics And Song Writing

    in Songwriting

    Posted

    "my eyes hurt" thats quite funny. I bet there are many examples of song that generally are misunderstood.

    You know, I must make an admission since we are on the topic. I must be a very LAZY listener. It has occured to me that even some of my favorite all time songs, new and old, that I have listened to hundreds of times, I have no idea what the lyrics are. Maybe parts here and there, like a line from the chorus. I dont even really know what the songs are about.

    So nightwolf, in a way your right in those cases for me because these songs evoke an emotion obviously in me but it is the "sound" of the lyrics with the music .They do have meaning but likely only for me and based on a few segments of all the words.

    Geez, I hope I am not the only one that doesnt always pay attention to lyrics.

    One thing about my older favorites is that ,once again , it is not the lyrics that keep me listening it is a connection to a personal memory.

    there are songs that if I hear them I can smell the perfume of my first crush in high school. Music seems to connect me to positive memories of my past in a much more real way than a photo or story.

    This being true, If I hear a new song or portion of a song that reminds me of another song, that can also trigger those positive feelings and memories. Its kinda cool really.....or crazy

    Seeking Opinions On Technique

    in Performance

    Posted

    There is more to playing than experience, technique, and speed. This is a response to the question: "why would a band want someone who could slow them down."... there is imagination, enthusiasm, commitment... these are the things I look for in a band member, not whether or not they will slow me down, but whether or not they will LET me down. I'm not great, but I am not afraid to play with people more experienced or learned than myself, nor am I unwilling to play with people "behind" me, if I see the things I mentioned above. From what I have seen thus far from Christian (I believe that is his name eh?), I would consider him quite an asset to a band, I'm sure folks worth playing with will see that as well.

    I know the Rush song he played well, he did great. It is hard to play to a record with feeling, he should try to find players that can play that and play it live, you wanna talk about a thrill [smiley=vuur1.gif]

    You said that very well. Thanks

    I am hoping to get Christian participating in this Forum. This group has more maturity than any I have come across. I think he will benefit for sure

    As a parent I am still quite protective even though he is 16.

    thanks

    Screaming

    in Performance

    Posted

    I dont mind screaming if you mean like an Ian Gillan (deep purple) type scream.

    I dont like death metal or screamo but for one exception.

    I can tolerate the Growling by akerfeldt in Opeth. I am getting used to it and even beginning to like some of it . They are an incredible band so I will listen to the growls as I enjoy all other aspects of their music. Kinda like Rush, Sabbath, Pink Floyd, deep purple rolled into one.

    Saw them live here in sept and they were fantastic. I felt like the oldest guy there and stood at the back.

    Lyrics And Song Writing

    in Songwriting

    Posted · Edited by cobalt21

    well I dont write songs but I can give you my 2 cents

    Personally I think "deep" songs are overated. I would almost venture to say that they are easier to write.

    I hope I dont offend anyone, I dont mean to , its just my theory and there are of course many exceptions. I think lyrics intended to be deep and profound can often be a cop out or an attempt to illustrate intellectual superiority. It leaves it up to the listener to determine what the writers story is and paint the picture and therefore the listener becomes the creative genius, not the writer.

    It wouldnt surprise me if some "deep" songs really have no intended meaning at all and the audience can come up with there own meaning as it relates to them. I suppose it works but not a real connection IMHO

    On the other hand, if there is clarity, it must be interesting or somehow connect with the listeners emotion on its own. I think to do that well is more of a challenge. Share thoughts from the heart or connect and relate to my experiences with good music and your song will be a favorite

    Its like a comedian getting on stage and leaving out all the punch lines. How funny is it if we make up our own. Not a perfect analogy but you get my meaning.

    Again, very few will likely share my opinion but just wanted to share

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