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Yeh, I thought of that except my 16 yr old son covers his ears in pain and I hear absolutely nothing? I agree though, I might be able to here a little higher on better speakers

Yep, went with the roland and even I am having fun on it. LOL, Brain damage. Yeh we noticed that to so I sort of tucked it in between the HH and Crash. Hopefully it will be safe there.. They should put a raised foam edge about 1 inch high around the perimeter of it. At least that would reduce the risk a bit.

Went and got the Roland TD-3 Kit and its very good so far. Well built IMHO. My son plays guitar and needed the drums so he can rehearse at home once he finds a drummer. Will use it for recording as well. He also plays drums. So now we are thinking something along the lines of behringer B-215A active speakers and a 8 to 12 channel mixer. Also could buy some used rentals Yorkville NX55P for about $550.000 each at long and mcquade. Would either of these be ok for a small to medium room 100-175 people. We would likely run drums , 1 lead guitar, bass and vocals through them. Could add a sub but I am thinking the 15 inch speakers will be ok for now. Any thoughts?

Whie I understand that 2 screws in the cover for the truss rod is a good sign I still am not sure about this one Please give me opinions on this http://saskatoon.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-...QQAdIdZ97337224

LOL All their cards are 5-8 times the price they should be. too much crack or something Wonder if anyone has bought one. Would have to pawn a guitar or amp or something http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/med...-cards-upgrades

Am I missing something here Check this price from Musiciansfriend on SD cards http://accessories.musiciansfriend.com/product?sku=475675

Looking at setting up a rehearsal area in the basement for my son to practice, write and possibly basic recording. Need to keep things fairly low volume . he is buying a Roland TD-3 kit to continue writing his own songs as he plays pretty much as well as his drummer did Here is my thinking, please set me straight if this sounds goofy. What he has so far. Gibson SG Standard Zoom G2 effects pedal Crate Tube amp Shure SM58 mic Boss RC-20 Loop station Zoom H4 recorder Roland TD-3 kit next month Now as for a PA system, I am thinking powered speakers and a mixer as opposed to powered mixer and speakers. Want something inexpensive that will sound good in a small room at home. BUT, I am thinking that it would also make sense to get something that would be capable of playing for a small room of 200-300 people. I hear that a lot of guys wont use electronic drums live but for a small gig in apinch a cant see why not. Could probably achieve a great sound overall in a lounge setting. Would 500 to 600 watt speakers be enough and say a 12 channel mixer. Been looking at Yorkville - NX55P 550 Watt 1x12inch Powered PA Cabinet and maybe a behringer mixer. Would the behringer speakers compare. they seem a lot cheaper. Please let me know if I am on the right track. I really know nothing about this stuff. thanks

Yep, I agree with your point. There are some songs that I can see might make a difference but only the ones that I listen to specifically for the picture , image , or memories that are triggered by the lyrics and thus might be altered with information to the contrary. In My case however, those songs are very rare. And by the way, I absolutely love spanish cooking

would the facts surrounding a lyric / song change your perseption of the song ?

As a follow up to this Some of the convenience stores are now puting loudspeakers outside blasting 17.4 khz to keep teens from hanging out in front of the store. They cant stand it. Us adults cant even hear it. So, Parents want some private time, now you know what to do:)

Can barely detect 14000 HZ . 46 yrs old Could this mean there is a lot we are missing and does it mean that some of the mixing levels might be pointless for an age group. Couple links here to test your hearing. Post levels and your age for some fun http://www.freemosquitoringtones.org/ http://www.flashpresskits.com/hearingtest/

So then, why are there no songs about oranges

I believe your observation is universal. particularily in the Pop/rock/metal/country genres Is it genres..........genre.....moose..mooses

Yep. You are so right .they have played to 200+ crowd and he was pumped. He would play every weekend if he could. Needs to decide whether to get another drummer as they havent rehearsed in 2 months due to level of committment. I might fill in been 20 yrs but with a little practice who knows. Thats another story though and posted in another topic.

your right I took my son and his bass player to a blues bar this afternoon.They have an open stage every saturday. Today was primarily guys jamming mainly Rhythm and blues and some great soloing. Some weeks there are a few kids get up but not this week. Christian was intimidated needless to say. Bar was full and all the jamming was seasoned musicians. Well, the guitars stayed in the trunk of the car as i suspected they would ,but after leaving , they both agreed it was something they wanted to do. So next weekend or maybe the wekend after we will go again. I told Christian he could play a Nirvana cover or something like that and if his bass player comes they can play a couple of their originals. I assured him that the host drummer will do just fine even with their originals. We will see what happens

Please dont scream at me for what I am about to say. I am not a musician but my son is. He is still in highschool so when he arranged a gig , contacted 3 other bands who had a bit of a fanbase themselves. I promoted it for them with posters and using facebook. They sold tickets for 5 bucks at school. They ended paying for the venue, $250.00 and paid each band 60 bucks. The next time my son went to that venue to watch some other bands, 2 people walked up and asked if Catalyst was playing not knowing he was the frontman. ok so now heres the part that might bug a few folks. I enjoy music live. I will go to a bar specifically to see a band but for me personally , the initial draw is covers. I want to hear covers. I will develop a taste for their originals but the initial reason for me taking the time to go see them is because they cover some songs i really like and they do it well. there was a band here about 15 yrs ago would do a rush tribute set then all originals. Tribute was the first set. People were lined up. Once they were in, seated, drinking, they would stay. After seeing them a couple times I began to like some of their originals and would look forward to hearing them. I would have bought them as singles at the time but hey, this was 15 yrs ago.

Don't think this is correct grammar either

I think they are a little overpriced. I know there is a lot that goes into a big show but I cant help but wonder if there isnt too many hands in the pot and if the shares of revenues tend to be a bit lopsided.

First Pic is a fill in my son got when a band didnt show up at one of the clubs here in Saskatoon the second is setting up for a four band event Christian organized and managed to get over 200 people out. I am the guy in the suit

thanks Yep, it came with cubase and I can see that it will be quite a learning curve. For us at least. Actually I really dont think the unit was ever used. It was in the box and even the accessories were in the bag with what looked like a factory seal. After doing some research , Christian bought a SM58 as it seemed like the best all around for the price. we will get something better in the future for recording but he needed something better for his live stuff anyway so this will do for now until we learn more.

Hi I am attempting to record some of my sons songs . At this point we are just learning and will probably acquire some equipment in the near future. In the meantime, I picked up a Zoom H4 a few weeks ago at a pawn shop for 175.00 canadian in order to record his bands live stuff and sync it with the video camera so they could analyse themselves. When I got it home, my kid took it into his room and in a very short time figured out how to record tracks so he used the drum effect on his G2 pedal and recorded 3 tracks with his guitar. I didnt know it at the time when I bought it but he was able to mix the tracks on the H4 as well. Has anyone used one of these before? I thought it was quite impressive.. I know we will have to invest in some quality gear but If anyone has used one I would be very interested to know just how good a recording one can achieve with this device if one knew what they were doing.. Here is what he put together as a test in about 30 minutes.

"my eyes hurt" thats quite funny. I bet there are many examples of song that generally are misunderstood. You know, I must make an admission since we are on the topic. I must be a very LAZY listener. It has occured to me that even some of my favorite all time songs, new and old, that I have listened to hundreds of times, I have no idea what the lyrics are. Maybe parts here and there, like a line from the chorus. I dont even really know what the songs are about. So nightwolf, in a way your right in those cases for me because these songs evoke an emotion obviously in me but it is the "sound" of the lyrics with the music .They do have meaning but likely only for me and based on a few segments of all the words. Geez, I hope I am not the only one that doesnt always pay attention to lyrics. One thing about my older favorites is that ,once again , it is not the lyrics that keep me listening it is a connection to a personal memory. there are songs that if I hear them I can smell the perfume of my first crush in high school. Music seems to connect me to positive memories of my past in a much more real way than a photo or story. This being true, If I hear a new song or portion of a song that reminds me of another song, that can also trigger those positive feelings and memories. Its kinda cool really.....or crazy

You said that very well. Thanks I am hoping to get Christian participating in this Forum. This group has more maturity than any I have come across. I think he will benefit for sure As a parent I am still quite protective even though he is 16. thanks

I dont mind screaming if you mean like an Ian Gillan (deep purple) type scream. I dont like death metal or screamo but for one exception. I can tolerate the Growling by akerfeldt in Opeth. I am getting used to it and even beginning to like some of it . They are an incredible band so I will listen to the growls as I enjoy all other aspects of their music. Kinda like Rush, Sabbath, Pink Floyd, deep purple rolled into one. Saw them live here in sept and they were fantastic. I felt like the oldest guy there and stood at the back.

well I dont write songs but I can give you my 2 cents Personally I think "deep" songs are overated. I would almost venture to say that they are easier to write. I hope I dont offend anyone, I dont mean to , its just my theory and there are of course many exceptions. I think lyrics intended to be deep and profound can often be a cop out or an attempt to illustrate intellectual superiority. It leaves it up to the listener to determine what the writers story is and paint the picture and therefore the listener becomes the creative genius, not the writer. It wouldnt surprise me if some "deep" songs really have no intended meaning at all and the audience can come up with there own meaning as it relates to them. I suppose it works but not a real connection IMHO On the other hand, if there is clarity, it must be interesting or somehow connect with the listeners emotion on its own. I think to do that well is more of a challenge. Share thoughts from the heart or connect and relate to my experiences with good music and your song will be a favorite Its like a comedian getting on stage and leaving out all the punch lines. How funny is it if we make up our own. Not a perfect analogy but you get my meaning. Again, very few will likely share my opinion but just wanted to share