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    Tips For Starting Playing Guitar

    in Performance

    Posted

    He Guys,

    I decided to pick up the guitar. I learned to play the piano already, so I kind of know what route to follow.

    What I'm wondering is are there tips you guys can give me that are less general (like learn the chords, play other songs etc) that where very helpfull to you? Or maybe things you wish you had learned earlier in your progress of learining the guitar?

    Thanks! I guess you I will keep you up to date with my progression thru the songs I post.

    How To Wrte Pop Music... Like Lady Gaga

    in Songwriting

    Posted

    I, for one, am very glad to say that I have never listened to "music" like this :eek: ... and I never will.

    "Both Beethoven and PTA meetings now come in spray cans."

    While I have no problem with someone finding a way to produce a steady supply of "salable product," and a market into which to sell it, the world of music fortunately is endless. You can turn out "squeeze cheeze" by the double-bucketful and find a way to sell every bucket ... but I'm not going to be one to eat it, nor am I going to jump up and down and say about what you've done, "eureka!" Nope. Bzzt. Not gonna happen.

    Luckily there so much music that isn't made to sell. That's so great abou the time we are in now. There is so much 'art-music' available for us that we don't have to listen to 'product-music' if we don't want to. Thumps up if you agree! lol

    Mixing Help?

    in Music Production and Recording

    Posted

    Wouldn't that sound odd though? (Sorry for all the questions, I'm learning here. ^_^) If I made a second take of me playing guitar, and panned it to to the opposite side of the original side, it would sound like I'm playing 2 guitars, and sound more natural, well, to you it would. But if doubled ONE track, and panned it left and right, you'd hear it through both speakers/headphones, and it'd still sound like I'm playing 2 guitars wouldn't it? (Cause that's how you said it sounds when I do it to my vocals).

    When I listen to professionally recorded music, let's say Cady Groves for example (I'm listening to her right now actually), Everything that's played in the left headphone, I can hear it in the right headphone..and when I have both headphones on, it sounds like everything is centered, and obviously louder. Nothing sounds "unnatural" to me (besides her occasional auto tune).

    I had always been stuck on the idea that panning left and right was supposed to give the music/sound a more wider sound.

    Yes, but to me it sounds unnatural if it sounds like there are to guitars being played and the are excactly the same. In the example of Cady Grove they made the master stereo in order to make it fuller (I'm not sure though). In your recording it does sound like everything is doubled and then panned to both sides. Maybe someone else can help you reach the panning of the Cady Grove example, but as long as you don't know how that is done I wouldn't pan your doubles to two sides. The guitar is not so obvious in your recording, but the vox is.

    Mixing Help?

    in Music Production and Recording

    Posted

    Thank you. I actually understand compression and EQ now, well, I understand what I wanted to know about them. Like, how to use them. Thanks to a certain YouTube video.

    So besides that, about this panning thing.

    I've been recording the guitar one time, copy and pasting the track, panning it left and right, then applying reverb/gverb to both tracks.

    You're telling me I should record the guitar one time, then instead of copy and pasting, manually record myself playing guitar again? And then apply reverb to the naked track, and pan them equally? I'm asking because I almost always just have one guitar in my songs, not two. :o Lol.

    Oh, and about it sounding like there are two people singing in this: I purposely did that. I would auto-pitch correct one track to give it that "doubling" effect. On other songs, it just sounds like one person singing. You can just hear me in both headphones.

    So let's say from now I don't use the auto-pitch to get a doubling voice anymore. Do you still recommend I don't pan my vocals?

    And what is clear panning? Cause I want to do it to my vocals now. ^_^

    Ok, enough about EQ and compression then.

    What I ment was: You record the guitar track once, double them and pan them both the same. If you want a quitar panned to the other side you can record a second take. It's all just taste, but I think music sounds the best when it sounds natural. It's easier to relate to the massage that way. If you pan your quitar and voice on both sides it sounds as if two people are playing the exact same thing at the same time. This is impossible to do in real life, so on a recording it sounds unnatural.

    You say you always have one guitar in your songs, but if you pan them to both sides it sounds as if you have two.

    The fact that I can hear you sing on both sides in the headphone makes it sound like there are two people singing. And since the are both singing excatly the same it sounds unnatural again. You understand what I mean? You should pan your vocals, but pan all doubles the same.

    By clear panning I mean that you don't hear your guitar and voice in the same place in the headphone. If you pan everthing double they all intervene with eachother because they are at the same place in the headphone a lot of the time. It's best when every instrument has it's own place in the mix.

    Soft Hissing Sound While Recording

    in Music Production and Recording

    Posted

    I think this is a question that has been asked a million times, but I haven't found an answer so I'm asking it here.

    When I record I have a soft hissing sound in the background. Is this because of the quality of my mic? Or do I need ot adjust some inputfilters?

    Can I do something about it after the recording process?

    Here's an example of what I mean. After a second you can hear the voxtrack begins, there a obvious hissing sound in the background:

    https://soundcloud.com/ardeche/we-know

    Mixing Help?

    in Music Production and Recording

    Posted

    I don't have much experience with mixing and mastering aswell, so I'm not going to answer all your questions.

    What I've noticed in your recording (I know you didn't ask about this, but I'll tell you anyway. lol.) is you mix sounds a bit unnatural because you pan everything to both sides. I think for the backingtrack this is not a big deal, since you can have two guitars playing the same thing. But the problem is that it doesn't sound natural. When two quitar players play the same, there are still going to be minor differences. When you pan two exact same recording to both sides the mix gets unnatural. I would recommend not to do this. Pan the quitars precisely the same. If you want to have to have fuller sound, record the quitar again and pan it to the other side. This goes for all instruments. Imaging how you would perfrom this song on stage and pan it accordingly.

    When it comes to voice the above goes even more. It would strongly recommend not to pan your voice to both sides. It sounds as if there are two people singing excatly the same at the same time on the other side of eachother. This is impossible and your mix sounds unnatural as a consequence.

    I think it's ok to double the tracks, but be carefull with the doubling of reverb. I ussualy double the 'naked' track and put reverb on the first. Then make the second one softer to the point where it sounds full, but not to full. Don't forget to pan them equally.

    About compression: The idea is that a compressor evens the sound out by reducing the softer parts and lowering the loud parts. You can tell it from what point it should do so by adjusting the treshold. If the treshold is a -2 Db the compressor starts working when the mix/track exceeds -2 Db. You can adjust how strongly it compresses by adjusting the ratio. There's much more to learn, but I don't know half.

    Equalization: With an EQ you can control what frequencies you want to cut/boost. If you have very much low frequencies in your mix (bass etc) you can cut these frequencies out with an EQ. Again: There much more to know about EQ.

    Normalization: With normailzation you can control how loud the average (or peak) loudness is. If you set it to 0 Db, the average amplitude is 0 Db. This might be helpfull for you, since you have problems with different amplitudes in your mixes and between your songs.

    One thing the video you posted differs in you recording in the panning. He has clear panning. That's why you hear his voice so clearly. There's nothing in the way. His voice has it's own place in the stereofield.

    Like I said I don't have much experience with mixing and mastering, so I might have said some wrong things. But I hope it will help you a little.

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    Recording Equipment Help...

    in Music Production and Recording

    Posted · Edited by Gijs

    Oh, and which version would I download?

    There's two different ones under "Windows"

    What version of windows do you have? If you have 64 bit, you need to download that one. If you have 32 you need that download. If you don't have windows 7 you probebly need the 32 bit version.

    Is Rock Music Gone?

    in Musician's Lounge

    Posted

    Things go in cycles. Who knows we are entering a era of acoustic music soon. Maybe not, though. Rockmusic sure as heel isn't dead. There are noumerous underground/independent bands that are amazing and make rock. You won't find them in the charts, but they are there.

    Moonlight Sonata 4 Guitar - My New Video - What Do U Think?

    in Musician's Lounge

    Posted

    VEry powerfull arrangment. I play the piece on piano myself, so I kinda know it. Although it seems a easy song it's pretty hard to interpret it well. You do it very well. I would say try not to obscure the 3/4 rhythm with the melody. A little bit of rubato is good, but it has to heard in the accompagnement aswell. I mean you shouldn't let the last note of those broken chords ring out like the melody. If you want to play rubato you have to spread the rubato over all three notes of the broken chord. Hope it makes sence.

    Besides this the interpretation is very strong. It's even more difficult on quitar, so all the props to you! Great work!

    The Songstuffer On Youtube List

    in Music Industry

    Posted

    Youtube is a way of getting your music to the (potential) public for a lot of musicians. This thread is ment to let other Youtubers know you have a channel.

    Below is a list of the youtube-channels of people on songstuff. If yours is not in the list, leave a post with the link and I'll add it.

    I would recommend everybody to subscribe to eachothers channels. I'm sure we are all interested in eachothers uploads and we help eachother out in the process.

    If you subscribe to the others on the list, let them know you are a Songstuffer!

    The Songstuffer on Youtube list:

    Mahesh: http://www.youtube.com/myozeusr

    Gijs: http://www.youtube.c...er?feature=mhee

    Romi1212: www.youtube.com/romi007r

    Brian Webb http://www.youtube.com/planez4meh

    Bryan Roymega: http://www.youtube.com/ryanroymega

    Timothy Hicks:http://www.youtube.c...HeartedMusician

    BriWise7: http://www.youtube.com/user/BriWise7

    ComposerZues: http://www.youtube.c...rageouscomposer

    Linda Knutson: http://www.youtube.c...ndaKnutsonMusic

    Tally: http://www.youtube.com/user/talismanpr

    Audrey: http://youtube.com/xiwashere

    * known troll *: http://www.youtube.com/* known troll *

    Socrates: http://www.youtube.com/socperezjr

    SoundonTape: www.youtube.com/user/soundontape

    Mister Percy: http://www.youtube.c...isterpercymusic

    Darmin Deflern http://www.youtube.c...C4jOjA2g/videos

    Becky Edwards https://www.youtube....ul?feature=mhee

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    Producing: Trained Musician Vs Natural Talent/by Ear

    in Songwriting

    Posted

    I think the onde doesn't necessarily exclude the other. A trained musician can very well be a natural talent how can play by ear. So, to answer your queation: I think a trained musician with a natural talent who can play by ear is the best option.

    Why are you asking? Do you HAVE to choose for some occasion? Or is it just out of 'intelectual' interest?

    Making Money In The Music Biz

    in Music Industry

    Posted · Edited by Gijs

    Gijs, I sort of agree with you. Yes a collective of sorts, but not in the way that you suggest. Yes positive steps, not dwelling in the past. Since I orginally made my post internet music has evolved and developed. Being a good, mediocre or bad songwriter or performer is also a fluid thing. Things change. My notion of a collective would be along the direction that Songstuff is going (of course! ;) ). A site that enables by knowledge and more. The reason? One collective 'site' in the way you suggest limits exposure of your music to one site (or group of sites) and one type of patient fan. Far better to keep the exposure end open and instead enable better distribution and promotion, a sound understanding of legal issues, a collection of other writers and performers who can collectively exchange skills.... AND effort. For example, promotional teams working to collectively promote each other's songs. Fully armed with techniques and contacts of course.

    I understand what you're saying about one site limiting the exposure. The issue is often that these type of sites attact people who want to sell, not buy. The question therefor is: How do you organize the marekting around the site in order for it to attract people who are interested in buying and not just selling. Or can you think of other ways to ensure an income (advertisments?).

    I came across an initiative in which all types of people worked together under one psynonym. The made all sorts of products and marketed it as iff it was all done by one person. That might work for this site... (Just trowing something out there..)

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