Fair Votes Needed

[LooknGlass]

This site could use some fair and balanced votes for best lyric. I am participating but I'm not asking for your vote, just a fair shot against the other four entrants. The way it is setup now, everybody basically can get their family to vote for them and win because of family size. I will be offering them an alternative to this voting method soon, as soon as I figure out how to articulate it to them.

 

http://www.thelyricalchallenge.com/vote-for-lyrics.html

[john]

I doubt they will be interested. The entire set up of the site is about spreading the word to as many people as possible. From the experience of myspace, reverbnation etc. if those who want to cheat can find a way to cheat, they will, no matter the good intention and ethics of decent people.

 

Out of interest, why not take part in our lyrics challenge group? It incorporates collaboration projects and is geared to broadening experience and giving deeper understanding. It also includes voting where appropriate.

 

http://forums.songstuff.com/groups/15-weekly-lyrics-challenge/

 

I guess it also depends on what you would be looking for from lyrics challenges. I feel confident that because of the variation in our challenges, you would probably find it there

[LooknGlass]

I doubt they will be interested. The entire set up of the site is about spreading the word to as many people as possible. From the experience of myspace, reverbnation etc. if those who want to cheat can find a way to cheat, they will, no matter the good intention and ethics of decent people.

 

Out of interest, why not take part in our lyrics challenge group? It incorporates collaboration projects and is geared to broadening experience and giving deeper understanding. It also includes voting where appropriate.

 

http://forums.songstuff.com/groups/15-weekly-lyrics-challenge/

 

I guess it also depends on what you would be looking for from lyrics challenges. I feel confident that because of the variation in our challenges, you would probably find it there

 

I missed the deadline this month for lyric contest because of my tumor situation....I was a day late seeing I was a day late

I have a lot going on and can't concentrate all that well. So I jumped in that contest because it didn't involve a lot of time. I am full of doc visits all the time and medicated up right now.

Edited December 2, 2013 by LooknGlass

[john]

Sorry to hear that. I get the medicated thing, I have my own issues and it can be damn frustrating to say the least. Painkillers in particular can really crew concentration and memory, and then there's the problem itself, all of which screws with motivation!

 

Just to be clear, the lyrics challenge group and the lyrics contest are not the same thing. That said, they do take time and effort.

 

I hope your health improves soon. Best wishes.

[LooknGlass]

Sorry to hear that. I get the medicated thing, I have my own issues and it can be damn frustrating to say the least. Painkillers in particular can really crew concentration and memory, and then there's the problem itself, all of which screws with motivation!

 

Just to be clear, the lyrics challenge group and the lyrics contest are not the same thing. That said, they do take time and effort.

 

I hope your health improves soon. Best wishes.

As soon as I'm back to par, I'll be participating much much more. Thanks very much for the well wishes.

[Rudi]

There are contributing artist only voting projects hereabouts.

 

Of course, you could bribe another member to vote your way. I offer such a service for very reasonable rates.

Or you could sign up to my sockpuppet creation program and get multiple votes from very inept artists.

[LooknGlass]

There are contributing artist only voting projects hereabouts.

 

Of course, you could bribe another member to vote your way. I offer such a service for very reasonable rates.

Or you could sign up to my sockpuppet creation program and get multiple votes from very inept artists.

lol...always love your wit my friend..lol......But on the serious side, I am plugging SongStuff (as well as one other) on my Facebook, Facebook Lyrics page and through emails associated with this other startup site. I don't feel there is competition between forums or sites, but do feel they should try to support each other, because it is the benefit of the individual (or band) we are looking for in the end. I feel they have a noble idea there, that could actually benefit those trying to hone their craft......sockpuppet creation program....I gotta admit, I laughed out loud for reals on that phrase.......P.S. SongStuff is my Home, my number one go to, just to make that clear. First forum I joined and the last I'll leave....and only if they're putting me in the ground.

Edited December 2, 2013 by LooknGlass

[Rudi]

Inter-site competition. I think its a great idea. Obviously it would need setting up to everyone's satisfacton.

 

I wonder if a non-competitive coleberation would be a gentler intro? Something like one of the critiquing areas or our lyrics challenge perhaps?

[john]

It can be a really bad idea for the sites. A bit of a gamble. I've seen several sites die as a result of an unbalanced collaboration... basically it can result in one community/site losing lots of members, especially if the sites largely overlap.

 

In fact I have never seen it work in a balanced way, there is always a net benefit to one site or the other.

 

A large part depends on the level of collaboration, and the type of collaboration. Mostly it depends on the sites themselves complimenting each other, not on competition. Really that will need my buy in and the owners of the other site, because the consequences are potentially extreme. For that to happen we will both need to be pursuaded of that benefit and prepared to gamble what has already been created. I am just being honest about my concerns with this. It can seem like a fun idea, or a way to create interaction, but someone pays the price, and it is usually one of the sites.

 

I appreciate that you probably want to do it for enjoyment and to support both sites, I am just highlighting that there is a very real potential cost. I've seen it kill many sites, so some care is needed.

 

That aside, the site staff (in particular) and many members, put loads into making this community thrive and grow. Songstuff is not a small site, and it has quite a lot of members, but it is neither a tiddler, not a giant leviathon, it is somewhere in the middle. It's still a lot to risk. So it would need a lot of work to put together, including a lot of effort to ensure that it is possible without damaging either site. Just now, I know that I personally don't have much if any time to put into this. Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely? The jury is out.

 

Worth discussing, maybe, but please don't think of it as a done deal.

[Rudi]

Ok John.

 

You have seen this before. I'm convinced.