James Grist

you might as well listen to the tracks yourself to better judge. The original, ( tacky pop tune ) The remix, improves on the original, makes the transition to decent tune http://modarchive.org/data/downloads.php?moduleid=51853#ntigroov.xm ( download and play with VLC )

thanks again for the well written and informative replies. In light of wants been said, I've decided to not use the remix. Shame, cos it was a nice tune. Dealing with 2 copyright holders over 1 tune just plain doubles the copyright costs and paperwork.

Hi, I'm an indie games developer wanting licences for multiple tunes from different artists from around the world, but mostly European, some in the US, some from other parts of America. At the moment I'm browsing around the net looking for legal agreement templates, but so far the ones I've seen are for when both parties are in the same country. It would be nice if there was an international copyright licence template I could fill in \ modify the particulars for, and send out to each copyright holder. Anyone here got one I could use?

I want and have informally got copyright for the unmodifed remix. yeah i thought those people asserting the mod archive licence meant free music for commerical games was wrong. but worth checking. I've been contacting music authors about licencing music for my game. they express a bit of plesant surprise, as if many indie and amatuer developers just use their music without asking.

thanks john, good info there. Regarding just the remix music copyright, its distrubuted under a broad licence, that is short and sweet to read. http://modarchive.org/index.php?terms-upload although explicit permisson to use the music commericially in games is not given, some people have said ( from experience ) that it actually does cover use in commericial games, because you are distributing the music as not the main feature but as a component of a different form of entertainment than pure music. Sounds a bit fluffy but they seemed sure of themselves and that they knew from experience. Have you any experience with such licences? thanks

Jeeeeezus thats realy shocking. The worst case of abuse of copyright laws I know of. Shakermaker borrows only 8 notes and 5 words from the coke song. They are the most recognisable part of the jingle, but its still such a small part. I don't drink coke either. This is another reason not to.

i got permission from the remix author cos he's easy going bedroom developer like me. It's the permission from the big record company of the original that's a real pain to obtain. They have a front line of accountants and lawyers that are paid to make money, they won't give anything away for free and will have a lot of paper work for me. It'll take a lot of money just to get there attention.

he was just a bedroom tracker who did a remix for fun, he didnt get any permissions and released it on the internet amongst the tracker community non commerically. Did Oasis have to get permission from cokecola when they released shakermaker? A song they admit was influenced by and borrowed from the 1971 cokecola song.

Hi, I want to use a song that is a remix of another song. Do I have to get permission from the remixer and the original author? - the original is a pop song - the remix is a tracker tune made purely on a computer. It doesn't contain any actual samples from the orignal. - the melody, chords, and beat are similar or very similar, but still distinct. - the original has lyrics, the remix doesn't. - the use of remix would be as background music to a computer game. This is a distinctly different use from what the original music was made for. - the computer game is a small scale commericial release If '3 chord blues' songs where the standard to judge copyright by, then I'd be ok. But I don't know, am I ok to get permission from just the remix author?