[Bernie Taupin, Elton John's lyricist, would like to have a word]

On 9/13/2023 at 1:10 AM, Mark Rhodes said:

Interesting article about a remarkable lyricist.

 

Bernie Taupin, Elton John's lyricist, would like to have a word

Hello Mark ,  thanks for posting this link ,  an interesting read , the only Elton John album i own is Jump Up , i have a few others on CD and Cassette , Mr Taupin calls it " subpar "  i thought it was better than that with songs like Empty Garden , Blue Eyes , Spiteful Child , 

I did read a book Mr Taupin published a long time ago , i think it was called Poems or Song lyrics or something like that , i will keep an eye out for this book , and might just buy it , to read .

[Hi I'm Jess from NSW, Australia]

Hi , Jess .   your post , or a link to your post ,  came up on my facebook ,  via a Songstuff  add ,  i clicked on it because the collaboration site i switched to away from here , about 4 or 5 years ago has started to wane , most the musicians i collaborated with have left that site , so i was looking for another site when i saw the Songstuff one pop up , 

 

If you ever need lyrics , i would be happy to help . either something from my archives or a collaboration or come up with something new for a melody you already have . 

 

Cheers Tez.

[Song Title Association Game]

 

[Songwriting Idea]

The light in the distance, felt like hope in the dark,

Promising existence, beautiful, but so far,

But is it a false hope , with an image so stark

 

 

[Songwriting Idea]

I'm in , BUT   ! ! !   are there any rules ?  e.g.   only one line per person per verse ?...or a free for all ?  

 

i vote for = 1 line p/p . because i have done this before in another forum and i want to write 2 or 3 lines at a time which takes  the song in a direction i am pointing it towards , not the group direction , if you know what i mean ? 

 

have u got a working title yet ??????  

 

[Problem Child]

3 hours ago, Tian said:

Hi

Just released a new rocktune called “Problem Child”!

https://youtu.be/7nqUaeMWk58

Thanks for listening!
Seb

THE LINK DOES NOT GO TO THIS SONG CALLED PROBLEM CHILD , IT GOES TO A HIT MAKING WEB SITE 

[The Line You Wish You'd Written]

That's an old word "Sprangle "  ( Smokey Mountain Magic 1910 )  ,  i like it .

 

But who mows the lawn at dawn ?   that wouldn't be a forced rhyme would it ?  or is it a metaphor i don't understand .

 

 

[Song Title Association Game]

Last Song - Edward Bear 

 

 

[The Line You Wish You'd Written]

wow this thread started in 2012  , i only recognize 4 or 5 names , 

 

One of my fave's is -   "  Who needs all that sentimental bullshit anyway " - Cold Chisel .  

[Not another one...! (guitar)]

Looks nice , but if you want a Fender , why not buy a used one from a reliable source , and have it refurbished ? 

[Song Title Association Game]

Flame Tree's - Cold Chisel

 

 

[Ballad Challenge #1]

Congrats Amy . 

[Ballad Challenge #1]

21 hours ago, Peggy said:

Hi Amy,

 

Enjoyed the read. Nice add on the third verse. Waiting to see your tweeks

 

The mic kinda stuck out to me too but haven't come up with a suggestion. 

 

Peggy

 

Hi , Amy and Peggy , 

 

I noticed the word "mic" also but did not dare to suggest a change , ( i thought doesn't the music come out of the speakers ? ) 

 

how about

 

Wearing  ripped jeans riding your Silver Arrow

Jimmy Hendrix blasting from the Radio 

[Pre-1978 Copyright and Publishing]

It's pretty easy to Google  this stuff , so i would assume you have already done this

 

   

COPYRIGHT TERMINATION:
HOW AUTHORS (AND THEIR HEIRS) CAN 
RECAPTURE THEIR PRE-1978 COPYRIGHTS

By Attorney Lloyd J. Jassin

To protect authors of older works from having to “live” with a bad deal they entered into when they had little negotiating skill or leverage, the Copyright Act provides that at the end of 56 years, the author (or if the author is dead, his wife and children or grandchildren), can recapture the last 39 years of copyright. For example, a publishing contract signed in 1948 can be terminated in 2004, provided timely notice of termination is given. As long as the work is not a “work made for hire,” the right of termination cannot be waived -- even if there are contractual provisions to the contrary. 

 

The Copyright Act also gives families of deceased authors another opportunity to extract value from copyrighted works. When the author of an older work dies during the initial 28-year term of copyright, that author’s family has the right to reclaim his or her renewal copyright -- a further term of 67 years of copyright protection. This added opportunity to get back ownership of copyrights exists even if the author assigned his or her renewal term (or devised it by will) to someone other than his or her family.

 

The Devil is in the Details

The manner in which notice of termination is given is highly technical and beyond the scope of this article. For example, notice provided prematurely, or too late, can frustrate your efforts to recapture rights. Besides the author’s widow or widower, children and grandchildren, the Copyright Act also permits termination rights to be exercised by an author’s executor, administrator or personal administrator, provided there is no spouse, children or grandchildren. Also, in situations where there are multiple authors, or after the death of an author, more than one individual may hold the right to terminate. In addition, termination notices must be recorded with the Copyright Office prior to the date of termination.

 

[Ballad Challenge #1]

2 hours ago, john said:

 

hey Teek

 

If you re-read the challenge it doesn't actually mention rhyme scheme. The first requirement exaplains:

 

Your song should use Ballad Song Form also known as AABA song form: http://www.songstuff.com/song-writing/article/aaba-song-form/

 

If you follow the link you will get an exlpanation of AABA / Ballad song form. When talking of song form (also known as song structure or song architecture) letters refer to the different sections of the song. For example AAA song form is a song that has 3 identically structured song sections. Normally this would be 3 verses, often with a refrain line or two lines.

 

To understand the different types of song sections:

 

http://www.songstuff.com/song-writing/article/song_building_blocks/

 

That includes what a refrain is.

 

To get a better idea of Song Form overall, read http://www.songstuff.com/song-writing/article/song-form-overview/

 

If you look at both articles you will get a much better idea. There are other articles in our library that explain all the common song forms

 

 

Thank You John .

As i said " i am confused " i will re-read the rules and what u posted , i am sorry if you thought i was bypassing you in some way , Thanks again .

 

[Ballad Challenge #1]

12 hours ago, Skin said:

Just a quick observation teek

you have ambition/musician as your rhyme in v1 and so if you are going to use "he's just a musician"  as your refrain line then you need to change 2nd line v2 if your going to match rhyme scheme?

 

Les

 

Hi . Les .  

Yeah , i am confused by the rules of this comp. it it say's rhyming scheme has to be AABA , my rhyme in the first verse is

 

A=Declan

A=Ambition

B=Metaphor

A=Musician

 

But then i read the LINK that explains " songform  AABA , which relates to Verses and a Bridge , i understood that the AABB or ABAB rhyme  pattern was within the ONE verse etc. ??  not the pattern of verses to bridge etc.? anyway I learn something everyday

              

                                                                                                

[Ballad Challenge #1]

10 hours ago, Richard Tracey said:

 

Damn Teek, I'm using punk in my entry as well.

 

Rock On - 

 

[Ballad Challenge #1]

12 hours ago, Skin said:

 

 

V1

Forgive me father for I have sinned

And the Devil has my soul

They tell me I will go to Hell

In the name of Rock n Roll

 

 

Hi Les . one thing i noticed , i think the second line would read better if  it went 

FOR THE DEVIL HAS MY SOUL 

 

[Ballad Challenge #1]

Declan MacManus

 

V.1.

A given name of Declan , no political ambition

A punk with a metaphor , he's just a musician

Does the hard yards , on the road

Always lives by , the musicians code

 

V.2.

Been to number one , but the jobs not done

He's been in Vogue , and the cover of Rolling Stone

Wears a stylish suit , white  fedora on top

What happened to Veronica , swimming in pop

 

 

Bridge

A punk with a metaphor

Just a little left of centre

Has the blues in his soul

Listening taste is classical

Plays in the mainstream

He's just so discographical

 

V.3.

He may be last years model , but is still current today

A social listener , that never went away

Just a little left of centre , anti establishment

A snappy dresser , looks the proper gent

 

 

 

 

[The Coffee House Thread]

On 9/2/2016 at 3:48 AM, tunesmithth said:

I'll post more another day.

 

 

 

He should use the laddies !

[Local Slang, Terms and Phrases]

3 hours ago, Rudi said:

 

The most surprising one is 'Mush'. I had always assumed everybody knew this word.

 

Here are eight traditional Portsmouth words and sayings you are unlikely to hear at the other end of the M27.

1. Mush

 

 

Pronounced Moosh. An old Romany word meaning ‘my good friend’.

 

 

 

Rudi , in Australia " Mush " is slang for Mouth . pronounced the same way , Moosh .  

[Song Title Association Game]

Real Meanie -  Ariel / Spectrum 

 

 

[Building A Wall]

i think this must be the place to post this 

 

 

[Just bought the upgrade to Mixcraft 7 Pro]

Thanks , I like reading about tech stuff ,

I use Mixcraft 6 . easy enough for a novice like me to use .

[The Music You Made That Never Made It]

Thanks , Tunesmith , for your kind words ,  I rated my song as " Not making It " because no one wanted to listen to it ,   YOURS GOT PLAYED ON RADIO , to me that has "made it "