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    Questions, questions, questions

    in Musician's Lounge

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    The following is my opinion. Those opinions are firm though.

     

    4 hours ago, Pahchisme Plaid said:

     

    Suppose you have a lyric you’re working on.  You begin developing a vocal melody, you start to put chords to it.  In the meantime, you post your lyrics, your vocal stresses and your rough chords in a forum.  You know it’s going to take some time to get good at playing it, but you have the song.  

     

    Then comes along someone who says, “Hey! Can I give it a shot?  You say, “Sure”, cause you like to hear people singing your songs.  

     

    They modify it to their singing style, voice.  Maybe even change/tweak a few words (or even more than a few words.

     

    Is this now a derivative?

     

    How does that work?  Suppose any one of the above elements of your original post were absent, how does that effect things? (For example, you either post without chords or you don’t have vocal stressors or you provided an a Capella version to go with your lyrics?)  Is theirs sill a derivative?

     

     

     

     

     

    I don't know how you convey vocal stresses on written lyrics. Can you show me?

     

    First of all. If all you have posted are lyrics, the collaborator cannot know what melody/chords you have in mind.

     

    Secondly, its to be expected that they incorporate their singing style, because that is part of their contribution. Its part of their toolkit.

     

    Lastly, if they change any part of what you have specified, then they should seek your approval. This is a collaboration though. You should exchange ideas. They may have a problem keeping your lyric to a musical framework, or your words may not be easy to sing well. Maybe you can solve this for them? Communication is the way forward. 

     

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    Okay, so now, supposing you posted a compete song and someone wants to do a version of your song, but changes the lyrics and keeps the melody and the chorus?  Is that a derivative AND do they need permission to do a derivative or can anyone do a derivative regardless of permissions?

     

    No one should take your music and put their own words to it without your express approval.

     

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    Also, suppose you marked the chords on the post, but you pluck and they strum the chords, can they count that as their own musical creation?

     

    No. That makes no difference.

     

     

    What are you listening to at the moment?

    in Musician's Lounge

    Posted

    22 hours ago, fasstrack said:

     

    Maybe Cooder's not as egregious, but it creeps me out just a bit nonetheless---and no slam on his talent or archival achievements. He's a way more talented performer and musician than ASB curator/bland singer-pianist Michael Feinstein. He's unlistenable to me...  

     

    As a kid, JS Bach's music was almost impenetrable to me, but I felt I would understand it one day. The important word is 'almost'.

     

    I could say the same about Cecil Taylor in my teens.

     

    In my teens I also heard the Grateful Dead. I understood the music ok, but it was coming at me from an oblique angle, like rock from another reality. I didn't really like it.

     

    Ry's music had a lot of elements that completely turned me off. I wont list them. That would be a waste of living.

     

    I  strongly felt I needed to persevere with all of these types of music. With Ry, it took a very long time. It was a bit like when you see a pretty woman with a flaw in her appearance, and you have to persevere to see anything but the flaw.

     

    Bach, the Dead & Ry (and others) are so dear they ingrained in me now. I wouldn't really be me without them.

    What are you listening to at the moment?

    in Musician's Lounge

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    3 hours ago, fasstrack said:

    He's a good man. Weird to see him in the Buena Vista Social Club, though. He didn't really fit in, though I'm sure he really loved and championed the music. I wonder what these friends of 50 and more years really thought about this gringo coming in and running things. Interloper? Maybe I'm totally wrong on that.

     

    But I dig Ry Cooder, anyway. He's like a musician/curator---keeping important styles way under the radar in peoples' ears... 

     

    I am a big fan of Ry. I love his work in his mature years much more than the classic stuff.

    I think the BVSC Cubans were happy to find appreciation and a little recognition. I think they respected him. I have a couple of those artist's albums (other than the main BVSC one) too.

    breathing life into a composition

    in Songwriting

    Posted

    I have a bunch of songs that are on paper or part recorded. Once in a blue moon they might be performed. Often when I record or perform them, they sound dull.

    A way to breath life into them is to rearrange them. Most of the time (about 98%) the time is what has to be re-imagined. In the details, it phrasing. In the large, its rhythm, or maybe even the time signature (rare).

     

    Pushing or pulling at the time often breathes new life into the song/tune. Its probably because I concentrate on melody & harmony mostly and the time least. I did this recently with a simple song that has been through more rearranging than it should. Most of my music is in a state of flux anyway, but that one changes every time I touch it.

     

    I'd recommend it to anyone who is frustrated with a tune that doesn't quite deliver.

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    Different Music for Different Folks

    in Musician's Lounge

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    21 hours ago, Steve said:

    I found a great site  several months ago, and I've been engrossed with it ever since. It's a great way to explore music that you might not have previously considered!  You can either pick a genre and explore new bands that are unfamiliar to you, or, open the page and stick a virtual pin in and see what you come up with? I've spent hours on this site!

     

    Every Noise at Once

     

    If you look for a band that you know and like, all the other bands around them will be of a similar type.  Have a little explore. It's brilliant! :)

     

    I'm on it.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    This better not be another porn site...!

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