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Thanks for the tips Mike! I responded to you post earlier, but I quess something went wrong.. I don't have anybody I know of my level at the moment. (I have a friend who started to play the guitar a few months ago, but he seemed to have given up on it already..) I will take up on your tip to refrain from being shy about it. As soon as I think I need a guitar in my sings I will jump at the occasion and play it in myself. p.s. my finger hurt already.

The tone of your voice is very good in my opinion. I couldn't realy hear you very clearly, but when I could it your pronoution sounds better then before.

He Guys, I decided to pick up the guitar. I learned to play the piano already, so I kind of know what route to follow. What I'm wondering is are there tips you guys can give me that are less general (like learn the chords, play other songs etc) that where very helpfull to you? Or maybe things you wish you had learned earlier in your progress of learining the guitar? Thanks! I guess you I will keep you up to date with my progression thru the songs I post.

Luckily there so much music that isn't made to sell. That's so great abou the time we are in now. There is so much 'art-music' available for us that we don't have to listen to 'product-music' if we don't want to. Thumps up if you agree! lol

In the mainstream: Yes. In de indiescene: No

Would be realy helpfull! Maybe you can quickly post a link here when you find a songstuffer with a youtube link. If you post the link in this thread, I will do the rest.

Welcome Brian. I added you and subbed to you.

Yes, but to me it sounds unnatural if it sounds like there are to guitars being played and the are excactly the same. In the example of Cady Grove they made the master stereo in order to make it fuller (I'm not sure though). In your recording it does sound like everything is doubled and then panned to both sides. Maybe someone else can help you reach the panning of the Cady Grove example, but as long as you don't know how that is done I wouldn't pan your doubles to two sides. The guitar is not so obvious in your recording, but the vox is.

Thanks Mahesh! This is realy helpfull! At first I removed the noise from the master, but I got all kinds of artifacts. I decided to try to denoise the vocaltrack only and the result is amazing!

Ok, enough about EQ and compression then. What I ment was: You record the guitar track once, double them and pan them both the same. If you want a quitar panned to the other side you can record a second take. It's all just taste, but I think music sounds the best when it sounds natural. It's easier to relate to the massage that way. If you pan your quitar and voice on both sides it sounds as if two people are playing the exact same thing at the same time. This is impossible to do in real life, so on a recording it sounds unnatural. You say you always have one guitar in your songs, but if you pan them to both sides it sounds as if you have two. The fact that I can hear you sing on both sides in the headphone makes it sound like there are two people singing. And since the are both singing excatly the same it sounds unnatural again. You understand what I mean? You should pan your vocals, but pan all doubles the same. By clear panning I mean that you don't hear your guitar and voice in the same place in the headphone. If you pan everthing double they all intervene with eachother because they are at the same place in the headphone a lot of the time. It's best when every instrument has it's own place in the mix.

I think this is a question that has been asked a million times, but I haven't found an answer so I'm asking it here. When I record I have a soft hissing sound in the background. Is this because of the quality of my mic? Or do I need ot adjust some inputfilters? Can I do something about it after the recording process? Here's an example of what I mean. After a second you can hear the voxtrack begins, there a obvious hissing sound in the background: https://soundcloud.com/ardeche/we-know

I don't have much experience with mixing and mastering aswell, so I'm not going to answer all your questions. What I've noticed in your recording (I know you didn't ask about this, but I'll tell you anyway. lol.) is you mix sounds a bit unnatural because you pan everything to both sides. I think for the backingtrack this is not a big deal, since you can have two guitars playing the same thing. But the problem is that it doesn't sound natural. When two quitar players play the same, there are still going to be minor differences. When you pan two exact same recording to both sides the mix gets unnatural. I would recommend not to do this. Pan the quitars precisely the same. If you want to have to have fuller sound, record the quitar again and pan it to the other side. This goes for all instruments. Imaging how you would perfrom this song on stage and pan it accordingly. When it comes to voice the above goes even more. It would strongly recommend not to pan your voice to both sides. It sounds as if there are two people singing excatly the same at the same time on the other side of eachother. This is impossible and your mix sounds unnatural as a consequence. I think it's ok to double the tracks, but be carefull with the doubling of reverb. I ussualy double the 'naked' track and put reverb on the first. Then make the second one softer to the point where it sounds full, but not to full. Don't forget to pan them equally. About compression: The idea is that a compressor evens the sound out by reducing the softer parts and lowering the loud parts. You can tell it from what point it should do so by adjusting the treshold. If the treshold is a -2 Db the compressor starts working when the mix/track exceeds -2 Db. You can adjust how strongly it compresses by adjusting the ratio. There's much more to learn, but I don't know half. Equalization: With an EQ you can control what frequencies you want to cut/boost. If you have very much low frequencies in your mix (bass etc) you can cut these frequencies out with an EQ. Again: There much more to know about EQ. Normalization: With normailzation you can control how loud the average (or peak) loudness is. If you set it to 0 Db, the average amplitude is 0 Db. This might be helpfull for you, since you have problems with different amplitudes in your mixes and between your songs. One thing the video you posted differs in you recording in the panning. He has clear panning. That's why you hear his voice so clearly. There's nothing in the way. His voice has it's own place in the stereofield. Like I said I don't have much experience with mixing and mastering, so I might have said some wrong things. But I hope it will help you a little.

What version of windows do you have? If you have 64 bit, you need to download that one. If you have 32 you need that download. If you don't have windows 7 you probebly need the 32 bit version.

Try out REAPER. You can donwload and try it out for free. It's a complete Digital Audio Workstation with all the bells and whistels attached. If you never used a DAW you will need to put some effort in understanding all the bells and whistels, but it's not to complicated and if you are serious about recording you will defenitly need ot use a DAW at some point. http://www.reaper.fm/download.php

Accepted. (I didn't want the brainfreeze at first, but it has a kind of reminiscing quality to it. So, I decided to take it anyways).

What flavours?

Things go in cycles. Who knows we are entering a era of acoustic music soon. Maybe not, though. Rockmusic sure as heel isn't dead. There are noumerous underground/independent bands that are amazing and make rock. You won't find them in the charts, but they are there.

I thumped up.

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VEry powerfull arrangment. I play the piece on piano myself, so I kinda know it. Although it seems a easy song it's pretty hard to interpret it well. You do it very well. I would say try not to obscure the 3/4 rhythm with the melody. A little bit of rubato is good, but it has to heard in the accompagnement aswell. I mean you shouldn't let the last note of those broken chords ring out like the melody. If you want to play rubato you have to spread the rubato over all three notes of the broken chord. Hope it makes sence. Besides this the interpretation is very strong. It's even more difficult on quitar, so all the props to you! Great work!

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Youtube is a way of getting your music to the (potential) public for a lot of musicians. This thread is ment to let other Youtubers know you have a channel. Below is a list of the youtube-channels of people on songstuff. If yours is not in the list, leave a post with the link and I'll add it. I would recommend everybody to subscribe to eachothers channels. I'm sure we are all interested in eachothers uploads and we help eachother out in the process. If you subscribe to the others on the list, let them know you are a Songstuffer! The Songstuffer on Youtube list: Mahesh: http://www.youtube.com/myozeusr Gijs: http://www.youtube.c...er?feature=mhee Romi1212: www.youtube.com/romi007r Brian Webb http://www.youtube.com/planez4meh Bryan Roymega: http://www.youtube.com/ryanroymega Timothy Hicks:http://www.youtube.c...HeartedMusician BriWise7: http://www.youtube.com/user/BriWise7 ComposerZues: http://www.youtube.c...rageouscomposer Linda Knutson: http://www.youtube.c...ndaKnutsonMusic Tally: http://www.youtube.com/user/talismanpr Audrey: http://youtube.com/xiwashere * known troll *: http://www.youtube.com/* known troll * Socrates: http://www.youtube.com/socperezjr SoundonTape: www.youtube.com/user/soundontape Mister Percy: http://www.youtube.c...isterpercymusic Darmin Deflern http://www.youtube.c...C4jOjA2g/videos Becky Edwards https://www.youtube....ul?feature=mhee

I post all my songs on my Youtube channel (http://www.youtube.c...er?feature=mhee). The songs are badly produced and song, but the idea is to give an idea of the songs capabilities. You may click around and if you find a song you would like to use in any way, shap or form, let me know.

I think the onde doesn't necessarily exclude the other. A trained musician can very well be a natural talent how can play by ear. So, to answer your queation: I think a trained musician with a natural talent who can play by ear is the best option. Why are you asking? Do you HAVE to choose for some occasion? Or is it just out of 'intelectual' interest?

You're either in D major/B minor with a G# accidental or in A major/F# minor with a G natural accidental.