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Posts posted by Lisa Gates
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This is the psychiatric forum for deprived writers isn't it?. I see you all have been very
baaaaaaaaaaaad. I see Lisa's song Crazy has taken on a life of it's own and infected
everyone writing on here. Once you're on the forum, there is no way out. Be forewarned
Garrett, you'll become like us.
Crazy,
Crazy like us, you'll become crazy
Your mind will become confused and hazy
Crazy,
Crazy like us, you'll become crazy
Goldy
I agree Goldy, they're coming to take us away... ha ha ho ho hee hee
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Garrett,
Can you show me the way out pal?
(These folks is crazy!)
I thought you liked it that way!
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Hey all, I'm insanely new to this website but am already really hyped about being a part of it. Any advice for a newcomer such as myself? How do you all know each other, and get together to write music? I think I have a lot to offer so if anyone wants to take the to initiate me I'd really appreciate it.
Hello Garrett! So glad your reaching out and wanting to participate. I think Kel has started you off in the right direction. Were you looking to start with our group here? I think its great!
Lisa
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Dreamer nothing but a dreamer la la la lala la
Hee hee hee
Les, you are in soooooo much trouble! I HATE supertramp! ok well, not really but I hate that their stupid repatative songs get stuck in my head. Thanks for that. Now I'll be singing that all day. da da da dum!
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We are the best!
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He was the most often "man" on earth in 2001, I remember reading somewhere!
Says alot, huh?
Gotta get ready for work.... drag....
K
just finishing up here! vodka, here i come baby!! (i'm going a little smiley crazy huh?!)
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Dang!
Now there's an expression for you! It rings much better than Doh!
K
I'm from the south y'all! we say dang 'round here!
Doh is Homer's saying. It has it's high esteemed place in our English language...
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yes Maam !
ermm..
I meant no Maam !
Dang, you've got me laughing so hard! good one!
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Kel,
Jump in & welcome.
You can mediate between me & Lisa.
Rudi
bah! I'm easy to get along with... as long as I get my own way! No no really, I'm here to learn and I believe colloborating is the only way "the biz" works nowadays so don't you worry about me! I am up for the challenge! Don't change a thing!
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If I even thought about trying yoga I'd snap in so many pieces I'd be dust in minutes. Lol once upon a time I did Tai Chi, but that was in the long, long ago, in the land of far, far away.
You would NOT! Yoga is gracefully listening to your body so you don't snap! I wish I had more time for it... and Tai Chi that must have been awesome! I might have to learn that someday!
Yep, just culled all but 8!
I never delete anything... I might need it one day!
Kel
me too...
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I'm happy if you are
John, do you do yoga? well anyway...you bend well! I'm happy!
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Rules are for bending!
Les, I like how you think!
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Hi Guys,
I have completed my assignment and all my reading for the course, so I'll take the plunge and join in if anyone wants me.
John, is there anyone specific you'd rather me team up with? Otherwise I'll join Lisa and Rudi, as Lisa did say she wanted to team up.
Kel for hire!
(Cheap. Real cheap!)
Oh what fun! Can we?!!!
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Yes you can work with previous contacts.
As the lyrics part of the challenge has to be posted by next week the lyrics write will pretty well be over by then. that is why there is another challenge next week.
Lastly, although the lyrics have to be posted by next week they do not need to be set in stone, that is simply your full-draft-deadline. ie, if the song nees you to change the lyrics for the song to work, you can change them.
cool! thanx
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Too complicated for me, I don't even understand what John posted. So I'm out, I'll just observe and see what I can learn from the challenge.
Goldy .
awww, take it one step at a time. I had to write it down and that helped me break it down. I guess wait and see. You should still help critique the group though...
For me this is a challenge of setting goals and moving forward on them.
I took a local songwriting workshop and I learned collaborating is the way to go!
Chat soon,
Lisa
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I don't mind who I pair with this time. I got my own way before.
or,
If there is an odd number, I don't mind being left out. No seriously . I am here to help only. I'm not even competitive; though I pay lip service to it sometimes.
Rudi, I have some ideas if you like them I'd like to pair up with you!
Lisa
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Hi gang
Another team write challenge for you this week. I say week, but this is actually a two parter and will run for 4 weeks.
Week 1: write the lyrics, two team members from our group
Week 2-4: pitch your song via forum topics to our community with the aim of getting your song recorded. This should mean the melody is either written entirely by the member outside the group, or at least partly.
To do this you will need to both pitch to them and use your judgement to select the most likely candidate to give you the best result. I am sure other members of the board will be willing to help.
The finished songs will then be posted for the general membership to vote for, including promotion of the songs and the vote in the community newsletter!
So these songs need to be good. If you do them well enough there is the possibility that, as the performer will be collaborating on the write, that they may well want to keep the song in their set.
The purpose here is serious writing collaboration towards an end goal.
Lyrically your challenge is to write a song where:
The main lyrical hook line is sung at least twice during the chorus. It can be first and last, last two, first two or any other layout you want with the exception that your chorus cannot be just that Line repeated with no other.
AABB and ABAB rhyme schemes are NOT ALLOWED during the verses at any stage. (you can use them as part of the chorus).
Thematically the only restriction is that of time passing. Ie your lyric has to cover not only different times (cold be years, could be minutes) but convey the passing of time.
Topic wise and genre wise it is up to you.
This challenge should not only get you thinking about collaborating to a high standard, but also at writing with a view to a very tangible end goal. That's good real world practice... And a good warm up for an UPCOMING (ie NOT THIS CHALLENGE) real world challenge that will see those who accept the mission writing for a known real world, main stream artist of your own choice, preparing and pitching your lyrics/song to them, in the real world. (Don't worry, this I will give support for, plus, you can always use a pen name if you are concerned about contaminating your brand!) with the aim of having them record your song. Whether they do or not is less important than the very real feeling that you will be writing for a real purpose in a way that you can truly learn from the experience, and who knows, perhaps open a door or yourself as a writer. Bear in mind that my choices in challenges are always about expanding the tools in your toolkit, and that includes very real purposes and goals as that can affect your writing massively! It's amazing that little bit of foreknowledge of purpose can do!
Anyway, that challenge will not be next week or the week after, but it will be upcoming and I know you could all do well at it.
We have a great community out there, capable of doing some great things.
So pair up, and get writing and auditioning. Set the quality bar to it's MAX for this. Great lyrics, great melodies and recordings (when the time comes) too.
I'm looking forward to the entries for this week's challenge!
Ps, there will be a writing challenge for you next week and it will be a liberating one. Great fun too I hope.
PPS have you noticed I've started to give you teasers? Lol
John,
Out there in the forums, I already have some members that I've worked with and working with right now. Can I capatalize on my previous connections? and if this is a four week challenge are we really going to have a writing challenge next week too?
:-)
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Hi Gang,
I love the sound of this challenge, but TODAY, Saturday, I don't know if I can participate. I start my course tomorrow, and I don't know how much time I'll have for this challenge and I don't want to not do my best effort.
If I think I can manage the time, I'll advise in this forum. Else, wow, who said it hasn't been challenging so far?
Good luck to all,
Kel
But but....I wanted to you and I to work together...pretty please...with sugar on top?
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Kel, I'll buy your hit and buy y'all a beer at the Blues Party of the Century to celebrate the Triad's win!
Ok ok! a little over the top! Congrats to all. What a great challenge it was!
Lisa
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I know in my re-write that although the lyrics and story are nothing similar, I tried to keep the same "feel" quite deliberately.
Coal Miner's Daughter was a song Loretta Lynn wrote about her father, and his struggle to keep his family fed and the yearly toil to buy a new pair of shoes. Some of us can't even imagining how close this family was to starving and being destitute. The song was a tribute to the hard work and sacrifice her father endured for the love of his family.
While I didn't go to the same degree, I used the same building blocks, with reference to "my mother" slaving away in Wal-Mart just to put food on the table etc and then in the "where is she now" verse later on was also following the original song in re-referencing what she had in the first verse, although it was second for me.
Long story short, I deliberately followed the style, if not the story.
I see nothing wrong with Lisa chosing a song about lost love to write another song about lost love. It had prosody built in.
Good choice Lisa, in my opinion. In fact, although I don't know all the songs in the list, I felt everyone did an outstanding job. My applause to thee.
Kel
Kel, this was a deceptively difficult challenge for me. In the begining it seemed great because I knew the melody but the twist came in my idiotic choice of style being too close to the original song. I really suffered! But in the end, it was ok...
I felt we all did well this week too! it was fun looking up the songs I didn't know the tune to. fun fun fun!
and we were pretty clean this week too...
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Lisa.
Brave to attempt such an iconic song-lyric. Yours keeps the mood of the music nicely. No mean feat.
In fact, Come Home suits the music in a quite different way. I am a little bit amazed by it.
Thank you so much for noticing so much.
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a good point and lesson to learn, at least regarding getting genuine difference between the original song and your own.
I'm trying to learn! These challenges are twisting my brain in new directions and I can't tell you how much I appreciate that! Twist me like a pretzle John! I've invited some new people, one from the Pat Pattison Course just signed on to songstuff last night (no...I'm not stalking...YES I AM! Yikes)
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Now this is nice! If Patsy Cline was alive, Lisa, she would be proud.
Goldy
Thanks, but I'm dissapointed in my words here. Crazy has "lonely" and "wondering" and I have those in my lyrics too...as I said I should've picked a topic that wasn't so close to the original song. argh! next time!
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Lisa, it took me a couple sing throughs but i got it and it flowed nicely, mainly as, although I have heard the tune before I did not really know how the original was sung.
Nirvana? not one I knew and not one for the kids either! but I liked the music more than the words.
These challenges do make you put in some thought to what you write.
Good job.
Les
Well for not knowing it, you did a great job.
Yeah, these challenges are keeping the cobwebs from forming in the ole brain!
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Challenge #14 It's All About The Hook (Almost)
in Writing Challenges
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I love us! I think crazy is the new normal.
bwaaa ha ha ha!