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2 minutes ago, symphonious7 said:
those guys are rad if you didn't know.
Haven't heard rad used in a while. Those are my initials so obviously I love it. I used to be the coolest kid playing Donkey Kong back in the day with those initials, since they were legit. LOL Remember when you could stick a straw in the front panel and get free games? The original awesome hack.
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19 hours ago, Richard Tracey said:
This was another idea I started this week:
I like this too but I'm with Dek that it looks more like an album cover than a logo. To me, the logo would just be the J and S. This would be an example of how you could use that logo in various ways.
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19 hours ago, Richard Tracey said:
Hi all.... has anyone had any thoughts towards a logo for your band/persona to incorporate into a website or artwork for an album cover?
I have started to muck about with ideas and came up with this tonight. It doesn't fit with my aesthetic, but it could be fun for certain types of music. I used an app called Assembly.
Personally I like this. The negative I see is depending on the size, if it gets too small, you may not really be able to read the "richard tracey music".
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Here's a version of my current logo. I did it in black and white originally, in Adobe Illustrator, with the mindset of making something I could use in the future as any color I would like. I have Thanksgiving colored one, Christmas, blue one to go with my song Indigo etc… If you're interested in the variations my soundcloud page has different versions I've used.
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To me it is quality. Because when you focus on the quality, you are building a good work ethic. To make things the best they can be for this particular song. If you are just trying to make sure you can get it done, it is easy to skip the "small things" that would bring the song up to the next level. When you do that week in and week out, for song after song, it becomes habit forming. Not saying someone couldn't crank out an absolutely fabulous song doing one every week. Sometimes the songs that take the least amount of time and go quickly are some of a songwriters best. But I still stand by my thought that quality is more important than quantity in the long run. Had to add, I guess it depends on how much time you actually have also. And I do know that bands like Green Day for example do a similar thing to what you do. They do a ton of songs quickly and then pick from those to put on an album. So, now that I've typed it out I see the benefits to both. As long as there isn't a struggle to spend more time on one particular song when you need to, it is a good way to flesh out the ideas while you have them.
Randy
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Welcome Highflier. Sounds like you got a lot going on. I wish you luck.
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Here you go buddy!
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Welcome right in.
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Welcome. Hope you enjoy the site and get a lot out of it. I know I have.
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43 minutes ago, symphonious7 said:
I guess I will say just a little something. I DON'T understand this situation, I DON'T know what pattern people are talking about with Mike I've only gotten a few critiques from him. But I used to have this producer who really got in my head, he made me think that I understood the "craft" of songwriting and that it could be boiled down to a few principles. I went on a forum called soundclick and opened up a review thread, it gained alot of popularity, but my critiques tended to stick to the same formula. I just... I thought I had music figured out, my producer's influence gave me that idea. Sometimes people really appreciated what I said, but sometimes they'd come back and point out how painfully obvious it was my answer was cookie cutter and I wasn't truly listening. I'm sure I looked pretty snobby back then.
I don't know if that relates or anything but just... don't be too hard on Mike if he has a tick like that, sometimes you just don't know what factors cause a person to think the way they do, and sometimes they just can't be aware of it.
To me the only thing wrong about Mike's views are just that they are narrow minded and don't really allow for much creativity. He has a box and it only accepts one type of song. Anything that deviates from the exact song he likes isn't worthy of going in the box. I accept and am fine with his views, Hi Mike! But I also realize that there is more to songwriting than just doing it one way. I will say, if Mike said "Hi, I'm from Atlantic Records and I'm just checking out some songs on here", I guarantee people that may not agree with him now, would be more likely to agree with him. At least if they were interested in going the pro music route.
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31 minutes ago, MonoStone said:
...it's interesting to hear how taste or individual opinion, and over-inflated self opinion, can make feedback a dangerous thing. I mean... imagine if Simpan HAD written Aces High, and posted it here for review... Imagine a guy without much confidence got that review and scrapped the song.... And then look at the reality that the guy who actually wrote that song is a multi millionaire because of it and other songs which are written in a very similar way.
LOL Yes, before Mike even posted, that was what I was trying to get at with my post below.
On July 19, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Just1L said:If it was possible …
If Bob Dylan himself posed the same question there would be people saying he would be better off getting another singer for his songs. They would say that right before they started cutting up his lyrics.
If you're worried about your vocals, take some vocal lessons at the very least.
Based on Robs post though, it came across as callous so I will re-word it.
@Simpan27 You can sing okay and if you really want to get better take some vocal lessons. Because everyone has an opinion and in the end they don't really matter at all. What matters is you and believing in yourself enough to become more confident. Confidence in yourself will take you far.
Now what I really want to say. What's up Simpan? Nice drive-by post you got here. If people listening to your song is all you really wanted, I hope you're enjoying it. Next time, leave out the questions at least so you don't waste other people's time.
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Welcome PoeticFreeFall, kegs in the back.
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4 minutes ago, symphonious7 said:
I wonder if I could start playing to a loop first to save time. It's easier to record the drums if I have the other parts but I can't record the other parts well without a beat, loop might be the answer.
Yeah, just make sure you got the bpm you want before you get too far along with it. That is the only thing that has given me a headache in the past. But really, I have the exact bpm I want with the guitar part. I just adjust the beat to match. I do sometimes record guitar first without any beat so I get that exact speed I want. Then I play it in iTunes while fiddling with the drums to get it right.
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1 hour ago, Jenn said:
Well here's a question ...
how many of your ideas actually materialize into a full song?
probably like..
1/20 for me honestly
I've only started one song out of about 30 that I didn't finish. The rest I didn't stop until finished.
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I pick a drum beat first that goes well with whatever guitar idea I have. I don't consider the drums "recording" though. It is the guitar first. I record most of the song after the drums. When I feel I'm really close to being finished, I go and work on the drums. Once the drums are good to go I check the bass to see if there is anywhere that could be tightened up with the new drums.
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If it was possible …
If Bob Dylan himself posed the same question there would be people saying he would be better off getting another singer for his songs. They would say that right before they started cutting up his lyrics.
If you're worried about your vocals, take some vocal lessons at the very least.
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9 hours ago, MikeRobinson said:
"No Customer Revenue(!) Increment!"
Interested to know what this means??
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One theory I just came up with is: until the day users, clicks and page views become irrelevant, the internet will always struggle to truly be profitable.
Example:
Two groups of people walk into Target.
Group One: 10,000 people walked in, looked around, picked up and looked at some stuff, then left without buying anything.
Group Two: 2 people walked in and bought stuff.
Which group is more important to Target and those selling products at Target?
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6 minutes ago, Richard Tracey said:
So should we be looking to remove so our music from SoundCloud in case it's sold and the new owners put a disclaimer in saying they own anything that's already there
I'm sure that has happened before.
That's a good question. To be "better safe than sorry", yes. Only time will tell if it's necessary though. Although, I guess in reality, they already own it as much as they need to.
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The investors already have gobs of cash, I think to them it's equally about control. They want to be able to control the new shiny way of the future. I would gather that is something that has been around though long before the internet. I do think it's the fact that we have watched it evolve since birth and it is just so blatantly obvious now watching it happen real-time as opposed to being more in the dark in the old days. But at least with the old way, companies could actually hire more people and turn a real profit. You see it in almost every sector. Jobs gone, investments up. There isn't much that eventually the internet and tech won't destroy and I really am not sold on the idea that "new jobs will spring up" at least to the point it will cover all the jobs lost. Hence the growing talk of universal basic income. It's like the rolling stone is now gathering moss.
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4 minutes ago, tunesmithth said:
An update I ran across this morning, sounds like the death-roll has begun - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-soundcloud-cash-idUSKBN19Y2NR
Over 10 years in the business and it still can't turn a profit. Who they gonna turn to? Google. Pass Go, Collect $200 … sell out.
Oh what a strange plan to build something you know won't make any real, tangible profit, yet still be able to make millions from investors. I would have been all over that idea when I was in the 18-30 range.
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21 minutes ago, symphonious7 said:
Dude on my old forum I got everyone doing this thing we called "derailing" which I know you THINK you know what that is, but we would do it on purpose, just to suddenly make a topic turn into a long drawn out retarded joke fest of pure madness. The caps locks flew, the point was never found, but dear goodness did we laugh, and oh man was it fun..... I'm starting to think it could come back too....
It's a naturally occurring event here. I know it is because It's what I believe, so don't even try to say it isn't. <--- back on topic
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Yeah, I'm a real Joker.
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I'm sure that has happened before.
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Quantity vs quality
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Posted · Edited by Just1L
To an extent I agree with you. I'd say I have roughly 30 songs complete. But the melodies, lyrics and ideas for songs that I have actually had over the years are more than likely in the hundreds. Probably because I fell into a habit of mentally singing things when I do stuff. I do a lot of work on songs in my head as far as where I think they could go and whatnot. So anyway, I would say currently I have about 6-12 songs in my head that have stuck out of all the ideas I've had over the last say 6 or so years. And I consider these songs to be the ones worth working on because they keep popping up from time to time, over and over.
The other thing I want to comment on from your post is the "doing the same thing over and over expecting…" Technically, that's exactly what you're doing, just with a new song. Hit a wall, scratch at it and then walk away. You gotta get through the wall (or over it). And, if I was playing the role of your Dad I would say "Don't quit when you hit a wall. Keep hitting it harder and harder until you break through it. Because you will, and when you do, you won't have to look back. Set your eyes towards the next wall. Because it's gonna come. And since you got through, or over the last one, you can get through or over this one." Love, Dad
All that being said I don't consider my recordings all that great and not where they could be. But when I compare them to my earlier stuff, it's obvious I've grown because I never quit. In one way or another I learned something new from each recording. So yeah, technically I didn't make all those old songs, or my current ones that sound like pro recordings. I can say that is partly due to time that I don't have. I posted a new song a week or so ago and have yet to actually be able to go back and work on it further. But hopefully this weekend.