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Great new mixing / mastering technique
BongStuff replied to BongStuff's topic in Music Production and Recording
He hops in, complains about a missing sock, and hops out again! BS -
Try this...on a track that you're at the very final mixing stages with, don't listen to it for 24 hrs or so. Then come back and bring the mix up again - BUT - keep your monitoring volume *very* low. Just low enough to make it a bit frustrating! Tease yourself Now your challenge is to make the track listenable *without* turning up your monitoring. I'm not saying just compress the hell out of it - cos it won't sound good, and we're going for listenable - just "louder" so that you can enjoy the track again. Once you've squeezed frequency bands you never even knew existed, and been through your whole arsenal of toys, dump it to CD/WAV and listen again, this time at higher volumes. Doesn't it sparkle a lot more? Don't a lot of the most positive instruments take centre stage rather than the atmospheres and embellishments? Of course now you can go back and more traditionally hone the mix you've just left with. But I'll bet you a few beers that you'll have a less cluttered, more powerful sounding track. BS
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10/10 Harri... around the same time as Peter Gabriel's "So", Kate Bush' "Hounds Of Love" and The The's "Infected" as I remember. Quite a year for good muso-friendly albums...! BS ( sorry for hijack Donna )
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ps. K141's actually a bit cheaper than I thought now...about 70 euros http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/fl.../product_id/922
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Yeah you certainly want to be testing your mix on as many sources as you can, but for producing in your studio you want something as neutral and "revealing" as possible. Reference monitors and a decent power amp. If you *must* use a hifi amp dont f**k with the tone controls. Take the loudness off and keep it flat flat flat. But bear in mind a hifi amp will have been tuned to assert its own character on the sound...as will any set of hifi speakers. Headphones I know are an unfortunate necessity for those of us who make music in the residential home...but dont rely on them for mixing. I made this mistake many years ago, taking my lovingly honed track to a record label and the first thing the guy said was "did you mix this on headphones?" I now use a pair of AKG K141's which are about as good as you'll get for mixing work. Cost around 100 euros. As recommended by Didier!!! ( merci mon ami ) BS
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A man walks down the street He says why am I soft in the middle now Why am I soft in the middle The rest of my life is so hard I need a photo-opportunity I want a shot at redemption Don't want to end up a cartoon In a cartoon graveyard Bonedigger Bonedigger Dogs in the moonlight Far away my well-lit door Mr. Beerbelly Beerbelly Get these mutts away from me You know I don't find this stuff amusing anymore If you'll be my bodyguard I can be your long lost pal I can call you Betty And Betty when you call me You can call me Al...
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Fab article Mr. P Nothing to add m'lud... BS
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Hmmm!! Neat idea! BS
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Nice link. But weren't UK music sales up in 2004 despite all the hysteria over illegal downloads? We were all taping albums 10-20 years ago too!! It's not a new phenomenon in that sense. Steve - if you want a good combo - first try AllMusic then buy Play - most CDs 9quid delivered BS
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Yeah that's true. I wonder if in general our collective span of attention is diminishing?! BS
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Definitely. But I still think we have more choice in music than in "fashion" - diverse music is in all the big High Street music shops. Sure if you wanna get *really* obscure - and I count myself in on this one - you'll need to find a e.g. specialist or mail order source. But your average HMV / Virgin / Tower will stock a decently huge range in terms of era and style - much more than your average GAP / Next / FCUK. As for Pop Idol....!!! Nothing boils my blood more than that karaoke stupidity! AAAARGH!!!!! ( I need a beer ) BS ps. oh here's one!
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wow talk about thread hijack no sorry no idea - let me guess - some old rocker? BS
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Hey Lazz! Yeah, not a big fan if Winamp either, other than for streaming. But then again I dislike RealPlayer and MediaPlayer just as much. Its half the reason I still prefer to buy CDs and listen through a good CD player and amp, rather than download - legally or otherwise! However, I've just downloaded about half a dozen tracks from Songstuff's MUSIC pages ( using right-click and "Save Target As" ) - all play fine in Winamp 5.1 "Full" version. Note I use the "classic" skin which eats less CPU. Donna - you might wanna try WinAmp 5.1 "Lite" version with the classic skin, if you're getting PC performance troubles... BS
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You also might wanna try running these two programs first. AdAware which will cleanse your PC of most nasties and Spybot which will get rid of some other nasty stuff. Both are free and well tried and tested. Might help improve your winamp performance. In any case it's good to run cleansers like these once every so often anyway. BS
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Yeah but only with big labels. Look at indies Warp, Ninja Tune, Mute etc...still taking on small artists and discovering and nurturing talent... BS
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Was that what the Chilli Peppers used to wear on their, erm, dicks...? But yeah, surely the music industry is already getting fragmented. As affordable digital kit and online distribution improves, the old major label business models won't provide the profit they used to. BS
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Yeah can't disagree with that. But it goes further - it's only guaranteed short term profit that the music industry seeks now. It's rarely that case that, from a financial viewpoint, a monied label will "invest" in an artist with a view to developing them, nurturing them, and over time turn in the megabux album sales and profits. Low risk is the name of the game. So gone are the days of "small" bands appearing on EMI or Sony. But there's hope! If you look at the success of Franz Ferdinand - it took an "indie" label, Domino, to back one of ( if not ) the biggest album sellers of 2004. BS
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Just picking on a previous comment... I wonder if the fact that most modern pop music is so bland and predictable is really the fault of the musicians / producers involved or the labels themselves? I think it's rare that quirky or developmental artists are given any major label backing nowadays. So many innovative artists that would have been a good bet for a record deal even 15 years ago are now confined to self-promotion and poverty. And alcohol abuse : BS
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Have to agree - can we update the link to something better? JP22 says "Compress a clean sound? Uhh.... sorry to break it to you but for the most part you're almost completely defeating the purpose of using compression doing that." Right. So we can only compress "DIRTY" sounds. Clean sounds defeat the purpose of compression?! I didn't read any further. Sorry to break to you JP22 but... BS
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Well the background hiss on both albums begs me to differ! Dude I totally agree. All I am saying again and again is that digital is not pushing the engineer anymore. MC and PG aside...maybe...! BS
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Yeah sorry 'bout that - it's pretty obvious once you know about it. But as a famous producer said "the kids will never know". BS
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John I never thought I'd hear Georges Martin and Bush in the same breath I think there are icons of our trade that nobody can really disagree with. George Martin is one. Shirley. ( and don't call me...etc...) Agreed. Pop rarely innovates! Well IMHO take a listen to recent Goldfrapp or Royksopp albums. Both kick Britney style digital-production-by-numbers straight in the 'nads.... BS
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Yeah some interesting counters there. Please don't think I'm on a "digital sucks" rant though. I've just finished writing, recording and mastering a piece for a commercial radio station this evening and didn't use any cabling of any kind, let alone 500 yards - apart from the headphone lead! ( and yes I do use cans because I have real ears ) Britney top40 trash does indeed all sound pretty good - but all the same. It's been a long time since I've heard something of that ilk that really stands out with innovative production. So yes, accepted digital does make things easier. But has the digital era produced another George Martin genius? BS
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Wow such sarcasm! : Yes, EMI, who owned Abbey Rd., funded the recording of Sgt. Pepper especially with no financial limits. But you could never describe the sound of that album as squeaky clean! Its varispeed and tapeloop heaven. I would not sound as good done on ProTools. Ever notice how Strawberry Fields drifts in pitch throughout? With digital it would have been perfect. And worse for it! It's not just about patching in your anna-log kit. BS
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