Jac

welcome Rob. lm really enjoying reading about all these creative artists like yourself on this forum. Such a wide spectrum of creative people, its great. Looking forward to reading some more from you on the forum. join in or l should say, jump in lol.

quote; 'selling an experience is simply more profitable than 'just' selling music' well to be honest lm glad l evoked a debate as l wanted to share my views from the stand point as a consumer, a creative and l guess a moralist. Does a person of all three have any need to be concerned with all three with it all. well i'm bound to say yes. Does all three have any right to give a voice. l hope so. l cant be the only one, surely. l guess the games ind and the music ind all feel the same ' it can only get better' but l l dont agree. Development is of course going to happen in this high tec world we now live in as never before it's at our fingertips. Is it going too fast, l say yes. Too fast for my liking and in my eyes it will pay a price. There seems to me to be no constraint on that development,( not just music) .sorry that's my moralistic part of me coming out. yes im greatful for the response but all l read is from a marketing view point. Sorry. I'm a 'child' in this business world and so l see things as a 'child' but l know that ok .But l do know you are interested as you have responded, which im greatful for as you could have just ignored it. lol. Its all massive big business and It doesnt put my mind at rest as a consumer. l just want to evoke a thought. 'Where is the music industry going' ? sorry im on my soap box again lol.

quote..the masses don't look at the detail. so true, but who's to blame for that ? l think the music ind as a whole must admit it has its share in that problem. Why are the so doing it or should l say allowing it. Last week l was watching one of the Star Wars film that l hadnt seen before ( l know, late to the party lol) and a scene came on where its set in a club with Aliens listening to singer and music. the singer was basically humming and the music arranment a few bars on a sythesizer on repeat. It struck me like a bolt because l could' thats where we are going' . l feel sorry for young musicans, songwriters etc trying to get into the business because when they see whats being promoted they think ' oh thats easy l could do that' and what happens their talent is destroyed becuase they give up as 'the masses dont care and the music ind dont care' someone said to me on here when l asked where is all going to end, he said the future is that music will be fed to us off all the old artists tracks of yesterday because there is nothing left..so we will be rocking to just the old beats of yesterday. and l believe it. what a waste of young talent of today who will just give up on tomorrow.

welcome Marcel. your a very busy bee, good luck with all your projects , looking forward to seeing/hearing you on here. im out to learn from people like yourself.

thanks John for replying. just woke & on my first cuppa of the day lol so will take my time over the day to read your 2 posts. But one quick question, where to do think its all going the music industry.? l do realise it contains a lot of 'elements' that make it up but all l can see is ' erosion and eventual destruction. im assuming you are a producer so have your finger on the pulse but all l can see is it going in the wrong direction with all this tec at its fingertips. Kids want, kids demand, so music ind gives it !!!! yes im from the old school and to be honest l think its too late on what l see, but l fear for it all as l see the music ind as a complete whole is largely to blame for it all and l dont think the industry even realises it !! gosh im on my soap box at 9am in morning, good job im not in a room full of Producers at 9am spilling this all out, they would be chucking me out at 9.05am lol.

yes l like this challenge, l challengue myself a lot on writing daily, used as a development for a personal exploring of ideas and would like to post it somewhere as l go to get others to join in.im just not sure which page to post on as im still new on here and still looking around a lot. would it be on the lyric critigue page?

Point 2..'subscriptions and playlist have change listening habits' l agree. l listen to all my music on you tube only. l only watch the vevo with lyrics added. iv never used spotify, l like the visuals on youtube and l can explore more about the artist if l wish. But some new artist use of visuals has changed so much.Some visuals dont even go with the lyrics meanings, Q...Is it to' arty'..ld love others opinions.

John, can l ask, is the song im trying to put together and explore , for me to post on this page?

gson is study 3D animation, amazing software he's learning. l challenged him often when l give ideas to put on his projects, like what would happen if programme is given a word that has two meaning..its so cool how the computer gives visuals on the words,,we get very weird visual come up says A1 will control everything in future, scarry.. lyrics will it survive.?.im not sure, its communcation humans have used since the word 'lyric was formed from the instrument Lyre' that poets used to sing their words.. l feel im living in the time of the end of human communication, to be replaced by A1 robot music lol

my husband is a heavy metal fan/follower. he used to have a a large collection of records. we sold most of them to buy our cottage in country we go to club most weekend to hear live music of tribute bands..his genre metal, mine allternative rock. l asked about todays music in the charts..he says he hasnt listened to it for a few year now, he says he doesnt think its worth it, he doesnt like the music they bring out nowadays. such a shame, what about all the lost talent out there, being swallowed up by big music industry that all they want to do is earn fast millions and at same time ruin kids 'senses'. So made me wonder, how will the music business be in say a few years time....

thats interesting you say you dont feel well equipped to write for yr daughers or sons generation. have you asked them what they feel about todays music? my gson works few hrs in a resturant washing up to earn money to go to france to stay with my daughter working there for 12 months before comes back to do his uni study. he says the music they play ( chart music) while he's at work drives him mad, he doesnt even know who the bands are. but he knows he hates the music. we talk often about bands and genre, he likes rap and bands like foo fighter. but when l asked him about the lyrics, he said' oh l dont read/listen to them , l dont have time, l just really listen to a few words that l like and of course the music beats.

right, ll break the above into sections, to start the dissusion if that ok. point l. 'the attention of kids has changed' l agree but l feel the music ind is not helping kids but giving into that change. l feel its in fact making it worse for kids to actively listen to anything. what l mean as 'actively listen' is my perception of communication. Communication is being eroded..it fact l think communication is dying. what will be commication be in a 100's years time ? l fear for the future of the nk generation regarding communication as what we see today is kids heads buried in phones no bigger than a match box, typing short l word or a icon for a sentence.talk to those same kids if you can ge them off the phones and they dont want to listen to anyone or even talk to anyone. the music ind has a high price it paying to indulge those kids in the music its marketing today with the same sort of short commincation in lyrics. what will the music ind do in a 100's time when communication is gone ! the music ind has a lot to answer for.

if still ok for the challenge John..here's mine.. part one. 'Choking fumes, blackness and lifeless clouds smothering me like needles in a blanket, And not just me, look how many of us. 'they will say, 'good old Charles, doing his bit for the War effort' i'm here, they'r not..thank God l say But whose to feed my kids back home. Not them !!! 'l hate this war, Why did it happen ' for Gods sake it 1914'. 'wonder what they are doing back home' 'Not lying in the stink hole of a trench, that's for sure' 'Hannah, l miss you so much' Memories of just one lone Soldier in 1914.

hi jhanover, how are you ? my above poem is one of ' one a day ' quick writes. challenges... not meant to be serious work. l do it for fun lol. l wrote it in 2 mins flat lol. l just find a title theme and let it flow. l dont think about what lm writing, l just let it go. lol. im interest if others do that in their days writing schedule. Do you do that ? l try to have a set plan mine is l hr fooling around with what ever comes into my head (like above poem) a few hr's working on some serious stuff . and at least l hr studying a music Artists lyric writing. At the moment its Kate Bush lyric writin l keep a small pad handy to write down title ideas as they. l keep a A4 note pad next to me for scribbling ideas. im constantly having ideas . ie, a theme title popped in my head as l put the kettle on this morning..had to stop and write it down , drives me crazy if l dont lol. plus iv just bought a brilliant massive large multi compartment case that has loads of paper pockets for me to file all my work in . l love it but its taking me some time to organize it. and l hr studying lyric structure. l dont study poetry structure anymore, im trying not to even write poetry anymore, it gets in the way of lyric structure such a lot and complicates things , but its so hard to give up. l dont want to study poetry, l want to study lyric writing. tell me how you structure your writing day, l d love to hear. take care Jac.

A fast and furious 2 min poem l just wrote.. there's a comedian on tv that l just loathe please feel free to dissect and pull it apart, i'm in the mood for pain. Funny Man. Funnyman nearly walked in my shoes today oh no he didnt, oh yes he did funnyman was just walking my way oh no he didnt, oh yes he did. Funnyman thinks he knows my life but he's never, met my wife he makes jokes he's never seen but just for once, will he come clean. He's not so funny now he's in my shoes he stepped through the mirror and ate the clues his wife's now invalid, just like mine oh yes she is, oh no she isnt. Funnyman took off his shoes today is'nt that always just the way Is'nt he lucky he just tell jokes on TV, as he throws the pokes. He should walk in my shoes for just one day but that's what happens, they just walkaway. he pockets his money and earnt a quid, oh no he did'nt, oh yes he did.

Hannah was my grandmother who l never met. She was found dead with her 4 day old baby in her arms. she was just 38 years old My grandfather was lying dead in the other room, he was 39 yrs old. The both died of the Spanish flu in 1919. l have her photograph, she was a beautiful Irish lass.

another poem. l wrote in 2017 copyright 2017. The race for love is just to much as l see your face before me your eyes so tender as it holds my goodbyes but words of hope it never dies. ll breathe the night as journeys fly so little time, the future lied. lets close the door, the storms too much our windows light no more to touch. So sleep my love as worlds go by for darkness came the day you died. As yearning flowed on time untouched in broken dreams l cried, l cried. So sleep my love as my world goes by for the darkness came . the day you died. The empty space. holds my goodbyes but of our love it never dies. ll wait in sleep an ache untold for the road l took and a heart foretold. ln sleep l'll wait till time it calls for tears from me no more will fall. We'll sleep my love as these worlds go by for darkness came the day you died, for darkness came the day you died.

was just looking through my old work..found this from 2017..hope you like it. Poem title Betrayer Demands An Audience Pretty smiles dressed in camouflage full in view, but hidden talking in sincerity to silent attentive listeners. Impressive Actor his stage now set for the betrayer demands an audience he's inspired from arising cheers see. his deceitful decorations near And when found out he's drawn them in his performance was just to win his stage impressive and the Actor glorious for the betrayer demands an audience.

Welcome Madeleine.

And hello to you. thanks for the welcome. not sure when l am allowed to post any of my work on here..i'm still looking around and getting used to the diff parts of the forum. im hoping to log in daily for an hour when not lyric writing. im busy bee at moment but l love to read poetry so you will me a lot on there giving feedback.

very interesting poem. l re- read it a few times, seems sad words though from the poet,.l would agree with Jhanover on a bit of tiding up of the grammar, but l like the flow of idea in the poem, well done. did you know that angels in heaven sing when they communicate with each other ..it says so in the bible. As man is made in Gods image and God also made the angels, perhaps that's why we have a calling to write/sing poems and songs ps..my grammar is terrible as you will see from when l post on here, please feel free to tell me to tidy up my own

We live in the most tec age, yet loneliness is more widespread than ever in all of mans history. l blame all tec..bring back pen and paper. Well written poem, speaks volumes.

l really like this poem. Very apt title. l liked the line 'l tried to sneak up on it'..made me wonder why the poet would want to do that, so l read on. Then the last line got me. Sad but true. We live in Innocence but for such a short time

Hello. i'm Jac. l have a passion to write lyrics. l see my world through poetry which l cant help but write down all the time. l use imagery in words to make sense of this journey we call life.