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thats really interesting. l like to read/listen to documentaries about famous artist and l was just listen to one about Johnny Cash last week. He had tragic events in his youth and it molded his songwriting. He said , quote; 'there is no way around grief or loss,you can dodge all you want, but sooner or later you just have to go through it, and hopefully come out the other side. the world you find there will never be the same as the world you left behind' most of his hits were based on tragic life events.

Welcome Vince. Can you post some of your music on the 'showcase ' l'd love to hear some of your music as i'm not on Spotify.

sounds very interesting, thank you, l will certainly read up on him. I'm a devout christian and l believe in challenging everything, so he interests me a lot.

anyone else have a favorite Album cover ? l Think its said that the Beatles album covers are still favorite 2023 .

that's really interesting thoughts John, thank you. An article written on Springboard Oct 2021 touched on that too. It mentions that we all know AI has a very long way to go, and says machines are still way beyond what human brains are capable of doing . it goes on 'we all know that AI cannot offer real human touch to our learning journey.' So as a tool, is it the same as to inspire humans, be our mentor, have rational thinking, emotions, like other humans do....the article says it will never do that. But l want to draw attention to what AI is doing now, in our period of time when it comes to the Performing Arts. And why it's now worrying many that work in that industry. As l touched on before, its being used now, a lot, in that industry, and its worrying the workforce,,a lot. The Writers strike is also connected to the worry of AI taking a lot of work off human writers. l think they have grounds to worry. Same as l think songwriters have the same reason to worry. Yes, its all in the future, so why worry now? But is it in the future ? l believe its happening now, and people cant see whats happening in the music industry. so l go back to my question l brought up before. (and for others reading this l want to touch on that topic only please) so my question is; If AI is using other songwriters work, to write a new song, and AI's song becomes a massive hit, who gets the money from it.? Songwriters are saying there is no law, as yet, for their copyright protection. Songwriters are saying they have no protection, as yet, to their work.

excately, that's my point. google did not promise to disclose the data used to train their AI systems. So some in the music profession ( and it's worrying others in the performing arts) that AI will 'scrap' together all the AI input from artists, put it altogether and make say ' a song' There is no law to stop AI companies doing this. So in other words, the Artists years of hard work 'could' be used to make say the record label a song ( which could become a hit ) and there is no one to stop them, and the ones losing out are the millions of artist who put years of hard graft into their art.! Along comes AI , it takes the best bits from millions of songwriters, puts it together, and what do you get, a massive hit song that was gleaned from human songwriters. And those songwriters it was gleaned from wont know there work was used by the AI companies, so wont see a penny in royalties ! Is that fair ?

Rutger Bergman sounds a very interesting character, very deep thinker,, even taking on tucker carlson once ! l'll have to look at that book as it's sounds very interesting. l think he has done some TED talks, l'll have to go take a look. but it might be too political for me. Does Rutger touch on the subject of 'population growth' in that book ?

lots of typo's etc, so working on that today. Plus i'm going to be working on making this into a song lyric, not sure if it will work but will give it ago.

yes its a topic that's being brought to attention of the music industry as these quotes from article written April 18th by the Independent. The article went on to say, the band Blossom used AI to create their song called ' Your Girlfriend' They did it by feeding AI with their back catolog then selected the best part of the out put. The song was released in June 2019 and peaked at 100 uk singles charts and no 59 on Scottish single charts. Nick Cave was angry when a fan sent a AI chat version of song of his song. Here, Conal Kelly shares my sentiments.... singer songwriter Conal Kelly said' it's scary, the idea of a machine writing a song and l worry AI will dilute peoples music tastes to the extent it's either impossible to tell whats written by a machine vs human or the public will prefer AI songwriting. The article went on' so the line between borrowing ( like Blossom) and mimicking (like Nick Cave) becomes increasingly blurred, re music industry faces a new problem- music laundering.

No doubt about it, the music industry is changing, and fast. Streaming has now taken over. So how important is Art on album covers. l think it was said 317 billion albums was streamed a few yrs ago, that's 317 billion art cover images. The Creative Director at LANDR said in Nov 2022 'streaming didn't destroy the need for album art, it made it more important.' l love album cover art. But are Musicians trying too hard ? l love the Art from years ago, it was simple and drawn attention. not sure where it's going now. crockery and salt cellars etc in the skyline'

many thanks John. ll take a look closer look at above info later tonight . My Poem was my Ist draft, written very fast, so it needs tidying up. l like to write every day which tends to be fast thoughts down on paper, iv got bucket loads of them, then l keep for a year or so, then have to have a massive clear out lol.

So you think that you know me, do you ? you think you know inside of my head. Well iv got news for you brothers and sisters, it's not that easy, from the things that's iv said. If you think that your life is so complex and who is to know if that's true. but if you think your the only trapped child fighting a monster the one in your body, it's fighting me too. Take a look at me and you see nothing because l choose not to let you inside. You think that you know me do you ? what you see is not all the pain that l hide. It's a little bit more complex you see, As my room wont let you in or me out. There's only my voice in corner of a World you know nothing about. My World is room and my corner, and my bed is my raft on a sea. And my pain is my invisible torture do you think then you really know me ? One day l may choose in the future, in the future to say' come on in' to come into my World and the corner but would you care enough and see me. My World is the pain in deep Ocean as invisible to eyes that cant see, and l may one day give you permission for my monster to see you who really knows me. copyright 2023

i find this question incredibly hard to answer as l have so many favorite Artists from many genres. some could be from live stage performances iv seen like Led Zeppelin to ZZ Top. but here's two l never get bored of listening to, mainly because l really like their songwriting to their presence on stage to their voice, either live or recorded. Stevie Nicks..to me her unique voice hasnt changed at all as she aged. and Phill Collins... l replay his albums often, and its the first Artist l want to listen to, to relax. a few others from hundreds l love are enya fleetwoodmac Foofighters Kate Bush Sting Sade l could go on and on....

Thank you for your thoughts and reply. l respect all opinions. l find it so interesting to read what others think. That's why l read a lot of music websites. It's a very hot topic in the music industry today and l wish more musicians would voice their opinions. For or against AI, it's all interesting to read what others think.

Yes, iv heard there is a backlash from fans of Lizzo about how shes treated her team (i'm not X ie twitter but read other reports ) Fans appear to be saying she's a hypocrite. Showing respect to fans seems to be getting more important than Artist are aware of. Is it lack of an Artist awareness whats happening.? Artists acting badly is nothing new. But they appear to be forgetting , it does really matter what fans think. The days of a ' l really couldnt careless attitude' appears to not hold sway anymore as vast media reporting holds sway for fans instant information. Whether its from musicians or actors, some of both dont seem to care what fans think, but look what happened to Will Smith, his fans were outraged. Fans opinion nearly finished off Johnny Depp career. So if an Artist really could'nt careless what fans think, is that disrespectful ? Fans are saying 'yes' more than they did in 2015. and if an Artist doesnt care to read what fan's are 'feeling' it could be the nail in the coffin for them concerning their career. The days of disrespecting their fans seems to be turning. It appears so, after all, the fans are the Artist bread and butter.

iv been reading an article written by Camilla Moore in Celebrity Toob, dated 2015, that noted 10 famous music Stars who are horrible to their fans. Is is getting worse ? can an Artists action turn off their fans ? and is fan/musician interaction important. any thoughts ?

an article by 'Musicradar' in Feb 2022 said the BBC published a report that ticket prices had double since the late 90's. It went on the say touring bands ,promoters and venues are also costing more, for them to put on the shows. Greg Parmley CEO of Live said supply changes were the issue across the music industry and said the challenging economic conditions were increasing the cost of putting music on l dont accept this. The ticket prices the fans are expected to pay is outrageous and getting out of control. My husband tried to get tickets a while ago for Foo Fighters concert. He couldnt get them as they were selling each caller 8 tickets at a time and sold out very fast because of that. Now some tickets can be bought on' resale' for the cost of approx £327 !! l think that is disgusting business practice and there seems to be no control to stop even though its challenged. music articles are saying fans are still paying these outrageous prices and prices seem to not be slowing down. whats your thoughts ?

Varitey.com reporting today that a person from the Cardi B audience has filed a battery charge against her over.the mic incident. l saw the video, someone caught that mic really full on. The report doesnt yet know if it was the person who threw the drink, who onlookers said had apologized right away before being escorted out by security. yes, not new trend, my husband been to quite a few concerts where some in audience threw missiles. One at Thin Lizzy concert in the 70's when show only 5 mins in and support band lead singer got hit by bottle full in face. Band had to stop. Shameful. l'v never felt safe at concerts. First concert l went too was a Status Quo, in the 70's, back then no crowd control at all. l was being hemmed in by a massive crowd, got separated from my husband. Im a tiny 4ft 11 and a group of skinheads saved me. Hubby says crowd control is still not that good at front of concerts.

yes, so true. On one of the shows the panel said Roy Orbison was rubbish ! well they got that wrong. l loved Roy Orbison.

when the music industry was so much simpler lol , when a Artist's music career was either made or destroyed with a 'hit or miss' .. just by being played on this 1960's show. l actually remember this show when this song was first played lol..look at the audience, some are actually nodding to the track lol lol sad or what lol.

Cardi B is in the news again for her throwing her mic at someone who threw drink at her at concert. shameful on the person for throwing the liquid at her on stage. It turns out (according to bbc news report )that Cardi B was seen earlier asking a audience person to throw something at her while she was on stage but to throw it at her back .The report said Cardi B was upset that a different person in the crowd threw something and hit her in the face !! PR stunt ? The BBC report wondered if she was lip syncing as the voice of singer was still loud and clear over the speakers even though she had no mic.

This is my chill out Album of the day. Perfect.

Ooshka. copyright 2021. Edge of warm, edge of stillness edge of shaking sand fields of blue, touching you moving on, moving on. Floating mass, sea of ooshka see the glass, it's breathing cold it's silky light in rainbow colour's going on, going on. Million shores with foaming silver sleeping, walking, through the stars dreaming image of azura rivers holding on, holding on. See the sea birds disappear but their watching from the shore ooshka melting waves of sweetness looking on, looking on. Snow white waves on smoky pillows taking back the all it gave floating dreams forever fading then its gone, then its gone. ooshka melting waves of sweetness then it's gone, then its gone. * Ooshka is Scottish Gaelic for 'water' i'm working on making my poem into lyric form.

Iv been reading the article Peggy posted on Songstuff , title 'Is User-Centric -Model a Better Option for Musicians' it's a opinion based article from the Varity.com 'how to stop streaming fraud' l have my own opinions but l would love to read what others think.

Congratulations on your win, well done. yes l would say this is Trance genre. l really like trance music, and l think you have done really well in this arrangement. Wish you could tell us more about your studies , goals etc. ( John , here's a potential interview for the forum ? )