What Would You Like To Talk About?

[john]

hey

The title sounds like a psychotherapy session intro.

I thought I would at least get you guys talking about what troubles you (songwriting wise), and what you would be interested in trying out. What subjects would you like to delve the depths of?

I would encourage members:

• To enjoy themselves
  
• To be adventurous
  
• Not to post songs which they are too personally attached to
  
• To be clear about their intended use at the time of posting
  
• To use this board as a sketch pad
  
• To be free with their comments
  
• To be open to trying new ideas
  
• To be constructive in the interests of mutual improvement
  
• To help contribute to the ideas pool for new workshops
  

and of course...

• to help other members
  

As this board is starting out I've put together some guidelines, but nothing is set in stone. You guys can help shape this board so please feel free to discuss changes to my guidelines in this thread. If something achieves a concensus we can move it into the guidelines (the first post). For example, this area might be better as a complete sandbox. ideas only, no finished work. Songs created or worked on in this board, stay on this board? It is probably the simplest way, but then you might be really annoyed that you can't use a killer line or two that you came up with. Or perhaps only workshop like threads where no-one or everyone owns an idea?

Please chime in with your ideas, or support of the ideas of others. We can try and work through most subjects in their own topics as topic specific workshops. If you would prefer to see a different approach, fair enough.

Please feel free to post lyrics/songs (not for review, for that please use the review board). I would expect posts to be a mix between lyrical snippets, to fuller songs where you are interested in exploring certain facets of songwriting. Same goes for melodic, rhythmic or chord progression snippets and song forms. Unlike the review board we will delve into specific subjects, work on snippets etc.

Ownership of Ideas

Work posted on this board, stays on this board (i.e. you cannot use it outside of this board and claim ownership) UNLESS

• You stipulate your intention to use it outside the board at the time of the original posting
  
• OR You obtain permission from those who have contributed to the work individually (no permission, no usage). At this point the thread should be closed and/or a post stating an intent to use the work from that point on.
  

If you post a suggestion for someone else's work (that isn't an extract of your own or someone else's work) and they have stated an intent to use it outwith this board

• It is deemed you have given the topic starter permission to use your suggestions within that topic without restriction.
  

If you post a suggestion for someone else's work (that isn't an extract of your own or someone else's work) and they have not stated an intent to use it outwith the board

• Anticipate that the topic starter might want to use your suggestions without restriction. In the interests of good will be prepared to do this.
  

Work posted within a workshop thread stays on this board.

If that doesn't happen working out ownership of ideas will be messy. If this means that a few less ideas materialise, so be it, I think that is preferrable to members concerned about posting initial snippets.

Snippets are likely to grow into finished lyrics. For this reason I would suggest any claims to the ownership of lines (I'd prefer to completely avoid this) should be made at the time of posting.

The emphasis is on you learning, and developing, not getting help complete a specific lyric. If that is your intent I would suggest using the review boards. If for some reason you are wanting to work on a more complete piece with the aim of finishing it within this board, ensure you state your intended purpose when you post it.

Please don't be too precious with ideas. This area is intended as a sandbox to try stuff out with the aim of improving understanding of concepts, the usage (or not) of guidelines and the overall development of skills.

Overall I hope we exchange ideas freely and with the aim of collective gain in knowledge.

Cheers

John

[Nightwolf]

john, please add:

dont get butthurt if your ideas dont get used

it was a bone of contention on another board

how's that for therapy?

[nashvillecal]

My Favorite movie "Papion Steve Mcqueen , Butt hurt HaHa good one

[SongLyrics]

Very helpful blog! Thank you so much. 

 

 

[Capo3tanya]

Loved this!

[L Nimbus]

One of the greatest challenges to my music is the fact that while i'm busy doing something, I can form rhymes perfectly in sync with each other in the back of my mind, have a hwole song thought out. then when I sit down to write it up, I've forgotten most of it.

[songbird52]

I am not working this summer (yay!). I am 65, so I worked long enough, I think, although I do still work sometimes. Unfortunately, my paid work isn't performing music. 

 

Anyway, being off and having time I have focused almost entirely on the thing I always loved best -- song writing! I have a sort of song assembly line set up. I have songs in progress, and I go back and add more lyrics or music to them as I get a chance.

 

Sometimes I get almost al whole song all at once. I'm sure everyone here has that sometimes, although probably not all the time. More often I get parts of songs, so I write or record the parts.

 

After a while, a song might be nearly finished but still rough. Not everything fits together right, and there might be some missing rhymes. The rhymes are the biggest challenge for me, but I deal with it by never ending a line with a word like "orange."

 

So I spend time smoothing out the song and filling in what is missing.

 

It's kind of like an assembly line, and the result is a lot of finished songs!

 

 

[Jay Jackson]

This is something I have been trying get a answer to on other forums I am looking for examples of Blues songs in a 3/2 Beat where their is only three beats to a measure no rests. I know of other style that use the 3/2 time.Because I am going to attempt doing a Blues in 3/2 and a few examples would be nice.

[nitish yadav]

3/2 beats can be broken into two beats and triple because of containing 3half notes in a measure, which means 3half or minim notes in a measure.