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  1. Back to the original point in the OP... Sreyashi, If you're singing words written by someone else, then you often won't identify with them... I reckon it's something that many session singers must suffer with... and that's likely why you can often tell that they don't mean or feel the word, I think it's possible to tell when some singers have been given words to sing. I'm not sure what you can do about it. If you get pay or some other reward to sing for a recording session or a performance then I guess you just act the part ... if you're not getting anything out of it then you choose the ones that you do identify with If it's a collaboration then you can maybe suggest changes. I can't think how you could make yourself feel good about words which just do nothing for you... but also I think the tune matters a lot, and maybe it's not always just the words that put you off... maybe sometimes the words just don't seem right for the tune, or maybe the phrasing makes it impossible to flow and goes against your instinct...?
  2. Donkey Kong is the best song... it should/could become a classic. I like Rocket Ship a lot, and I think that one will benefit most from a remix/mastering... I think it could be fantastic. I think Indigo is great too. That's my top 3.
  3. I think it's good, but probably not as good as it could be. The main issue for me is it drags or plods... I think part of the problem might be the arrangement and mix... The plodding nature of it might sound great if for example the guitars gave it a grinding power, but the guitar rhythm seems dull and everything sits too far behind the vocal and drums... the synth has the same issue and is kind of boring in itself. I'm not sure what the answer is, and maybe it's what you want... to me it feels like I could only move to it by nodding my head in a very slow and slightly jerky kind of way ...whereas the song hints that it wants me to feel carried away with it....so to me it feels like it's not quite doing what it's supposed to, but that is likely just me. This part of the verse especially drags...because the music and melody stay the same for too long, and that's made worse by the 3 x end rhyme mind/knife/wind (Maybe knife isn't a proper rhyme and I know it's meant to rhyme with 'slice' but slice/mind/knife/wind end up sounding too close the way they're sung, so they feel like a near-rhyme, which feels like it's samey...in fact a proper rhyme mind/find/wind might even help that part...either that or make those end words less similar, otherwise it feels like a dull middleground.... but again, mostly it's the way the music and melody drag there...and the synth isn't adding atmosphere (which could rescue it). I noticed the lyric 'need unwind', and maybe you chose to sing it with incorrect English to make it fit, or maybe it's a translation thing, but it stood out to me. Maybe that's a good thing though...not sure... Just opinions. I hope it's some help. I thought the overall song was good.
  4. This has been on my mind lately... For years I've had the opinion that 'if it sounds good it's good'... but now I'm not sure... Recently I've heard Ian Gillan and Noel Gallagher both say the same (not together) ... but I've thought "Hmmm well that's the weak part of your songs...for my taste"... And yet, I rate Bowie lyrics really highly, even though they rarely make much sense... I find that words which are too clear in meaning don't keep my interest for so long, maybe they date too quickly (especially about events/protests)... I think it's a matter of taste. Whatever turns you on. Answers - 1) this is a subject that's been on here before more than once, and my answer remains the same...it's always the melody before the lyrics (because the lyrics have to fit the melody/phrasing) BUT sometimes some previously written words just happen to fit (usually with a lot of editing) so having words around first is helpful too. If you write lyrics first, and just sing them as they were written, then they tend to sound written rather than felt, unless you're extremely good...not only good in a poetic way but also good at writing in a way that will flow well when sung. I think a lot of people underestimate the amount of talent needed to write words first or alone as a lyricist and end up with it sounding great as a SONG. 2) Lyrical favourites... Quicksand - Bowie, Lover You Should've Come Over - Jeff Buckley, Song For The Angels - Great Lake Swimmers, My Death - Bowie/Brel (some differences I think? I prefer it by Bowie).... it would be a long list.... I think it's a case of poetic words which are perfect for the music, but they probably stand alone lyrically too...maybe as poems. I like lyrics that don't immediately seem obvious, or mislead, or set a scene, and don't take the obvious path. I imagine a lot of people don't agree with me, but I've said before...the Cocteau Twins proved that it's the music, melody, phrasing and performance that puts the emotion into a song...seeming to be full of meaning and feeling without a word of sense, not even real words... as in - So are lyrics really so important... maybe they just need to not spoil a good melody!?
  5. I'm not sure what there is for free... I googled and found this https://www.meldaproduction.com/MAutoPitch but I have no idea what it's like, or how free it really is...I've never used it. I could run your vocal through the Reason pitch correction for you but, as you said with Garage Band, it's sometimes a bit noticeable. If you're not far off though it might work well... feel free to send to me and I'll try to help, although I understand that you'll want something you can do yourself. I think there are options out there which aren't free but don't cost a fortune... but when you start throwing £50 here and there on this and that, you really might as well buy a better DAW... but when you're an intern that's probably out of budget .... BUT... Fantastic news that you're at a recording studio! You'll go far! Ask those guys about DAW and pitch correction etc, when you're settled in and they know you well they might be able to give you something.
  6. Yeah I think those are nicer chords What are all the verse and chorus chords by the way?
  7. Different taste perhaps. But as I said before, the string chug chug chug creates tension...and so the chorus should be release. The chorus you currently have just adds some wierdness, and maybe more tension. I think if the overall sound was much stranger, and darker, then it might work...and the 'itsy bitsy' might...I mean if it sounded like Bauhaus or something then you could plod on without any chorus at all, and mumble nursery rhymes, but since the sound isn't very dark, and more importantly isn't really atmospheric... then I feel like the song should go where it promises to go, to a release/lift, and I feel like the itsy bitsy isn't working...but also... I think the melody in the new part isn't very engaging, and the 'itsy bitsy' doesn't compliment it. Just an opinion... but I think the verses are nice, and if you open it up with a big epic chorus it'll be good...but otherwise I'd agree that you've changed the feel, and I don't think for the better. Hope the opinion is useful anyway. Edit... When I say the chorus is 'weird', I don't mean the 'itsy bitsy' lyric is weird...to me it doesn't come across as strange or twisted...but I meant the chorus is weird because it doesn't feel like a chorus and isn't as melodic as the rest of the song. If it was weird in a dark twisted way then I'd like it a lot.
  8. Have a child do the itsy bitsy intro... otherwise I'm not sure I could like that bit. The new part sounds like a bridge, and I like the chords for a bridge...but not for a chorus... because it's a detour, on a weird downer, rather than a chorus type progression and melody. I don't like the 'itsy bitsy' lyric. I still think you need a chorus but I think keep the new bit as a bridge (just once) and for my taste...lose the itsy bitsy stuff.
  9. Jenn, I think it's a fantastic vision. And it's getting closer to being 'ready'. The verse melody is fantastic as I've said before, and the little voice doing the answering melody in the verse is especially catchy (you could pan that to one side a touch and turn it up a bit). Make that answering vocal more of a feature, it's a hook. The chorus is dramatic and kind of scary, and I think it's supposed to be. I think maybe the chorus vocal is a bit pitchy (check it with autotune if you have it) and it would benefit from some reverb or echo. Overall I feel like you need to compress your vocals more, to compensate for where your vocal volume drifts... and I think some eq work would help too...I find it hard to be specific without having my hands on the tracks to see what's what sorry....but you're getting really close, and compression and eq are likely the tools to focus on while you try to get things as 'produced' sounding as you can. I might be wrong but that's what came to mind... Again, I think you have a great vision for this, and all you need is polish...so keep at it. If this was produced professionally and performed with just a bit more confidence, I think it would be brilliant. For my taste anyway. Stick to your guns with the chorus...but try to make it as close to perfect as possible. Dek
  10. I really like the verse progression and melody, it's the best I've heard from you. The vocal needs polish, it needs confidence, and slightly better tuning at times... I think your technique makes it hard for you, the way you trail every note into a breathy kind of fall, I think that you should practice a slightly different way of singing...where you don't do that thing... give it a go? And ditch the sung echo ... it sounds like something singers sometimes do live to fill in where they'd have a very produced echo on their recording. The chugging strings (I can't remember the musical term) go on for too many bars, and they promise a chorus (as they create the tension) which never comes... you need a chorus, with different chords to the verse. I gave up ages ago trying to persuade you to finish one before starting another but I wonder whether the reason you don't finish is because you haven't really sussed 'finishing' rather than just because you have another idea. In fact, you've got so many ideas that you could probably take a section out of another and make it the chorus for this... if you're not able to think up a fresh chorus...try it?
  11. You might be right. I think it's my voice in the verse that's bugging me as much as the melody. Yes please, if you have time to singalong... Full voice please. The effect I'm looking for is a crowd or modern choir sound with the chorus vocals... so just a singalong, so I can blend together. Very kind of you to do, thanks again!
  12. Thanks both of you, I really appreciate it. Very glad you liked it. Dek
  13. I like this song a lot, I think it could be wonderful. The mix needs work and I can't offer better specific advice than you've already received... but also I feel like a few more takes would help the vocals and guitars sound a little bit more confident. When you edit the mix keep taking a break to listen carefully to songs that influence you, to compare the production. I think it's near impossible to match great studio recordings in typical home recording, but you can get closer....
  14. Thanks David, I will address those things before it's done. I'm still deciding whether or not I like the verse melody/vocal enough....
  15. Hi Emily, I really like the start. The buzz that enters at 0:41 bugged me, because it was like a buzzing bug, just not very pleasant. At 2:13 I wanted the arrangement to really swell up and sweep me away... I think you kept it too thin, and that's the place to add depth. Some lower strings or synths, just something to make it feel extra warm and deep and wide there. I think the rest is great. This is all just an opinion of course. That buzzing bug was the only thing which seemed 'wrong' to me. I like the music box kind of vibe some of the sounds bring, and I thought that you could develop that idea more...