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Yeah, I've had similar moments, but not quite as simple as that... I wont go into them, as we're far enough off topic as it is Plus, this is a public forum that my friends know I'm on

And you're ditching a big potential fan base with the student hating

Ok, here's some links you might find useful: Interesting article Another (quite different, possibly still full of useful info) contract discussion And the Songstuff music business area, with an article on contract basics! Hopefully you can either find what you need (a little) from them, or someone with more knowledge will be able to help soon!

Ok, I have ZERO experience, but from what I've read on the internet about such things I believe that sounds fairly standard... If you're lucky Lazz (our 'legal eagle') will be kind enough to lend his knowledge... Failing that get in touch with the musicians union or similar, as I'm fairly sure I remember it being mentioned before somewhere on here... Oh, and try searching these forums for similar threads, and the articles on the main site I think have some useful info on this too... I'll try and find some links for you..! I'm entertained by the "the Laws in force in all other territories throughout the Universe" bit! They really do cover their arses don't they?! Good luck! Rohan

Feeder 28/05/2008 It was nice to return to The Point after all these gigs in the Carling Academy. It's a much nicer feeling venue, even if there isn't a nice cooling breeze... Sadly The Point's neighbours have been complaining about the noise (and apparently they are the new residents, moved in since it's been a gig venue) and so it was threatened with closure, luckily it seems they will just have to sound proof the building properly by a certain time (possibly August...). It would be a real shame if it closes, as it's the best gig venue I've been to in Cardiff, The CIA feels too big and corporate, and the Barfly is possibly too small and skanky! The support act were the winners of a competition to support Feeder for this tour, there was a different (I believe local) act at each date of this special 'album preview' mini tour, and we got Malpas, although Grant (of Feeder) later updated us that the band have decided to change their name to 'Butterflys With Beards', much better in my opinion! Certainly more memorable... They seemed pretty cool, but didn't quite catch the crowd, and I think I might have been spoilt by support acts recently, cause they just didn't seem up to caliber... Far better than last time I saw Feeder at their own gig - they had Goldie Looking chain for that :S That said they did keep me entertained for their half hour set, and actually had a better light show that Feeder! Feeder made it on stage at nine, to roars from the crowd (I always forget just how much Feeder fans like Feeder, you just don't seem to get 'meh' fans for them at gigs!), and kicked of their set with 'Feeling a Moment'. It was a little odd to begin with as there were several people (like me) that really wanted to jump around loads, but you can't quite mosh to that song, so we all looked somewhat awkward... That state of affairs was vastly improved by the next song 'Shatter' which got a good number of people pogoing like mad. The next two or three songs were all new ones, 'Miss You' (which was excellent live) and 'We Are The People' everyone knew as they have been the last two singles, and Grant introduced the next new one by saying 'If any of you are singing along and know all the words to this I'll know you've downloaded it illegally! Not that it matters!' From tonights gig, the new album sounds like it's gonna be a stormer, the rocking songs are getting more rocking, back to their pre 'Comfort in Sound', erm, sound! I'll have to say, much as I like, indeed love, both 'Comfort in Sound' and 'Pushing the Senses' they both felt somewhat lacking in Oomph, and I was glad when I heard 'Shatter' because that was the first new song in a few years from them that sounded 'proper' rocking. While it was only to be expected, there were a lot of new songs, to the point they cut out some classics, which everyone there missed quite a lot, but they said they'd be back for another tour in October, and they'll either put them back in or disappoint a LOT of fans! That said, they did play a few old classics, such as 'My Perfect Day' (off their first album) and 'Yesterday Went Too Soon' (off their second), although the was noticeably nothing from their first big hit 'Echo Park', not that I missed 'Buck Rodgers' THAT much (it's good live, but they do have MUCH better songs), but 'Seven Days In The Sun' is almost as much of a Feeder institution as 'Just a Day'! Happily though, apparently at every gig there's always at least one person that screams for 'Tangerine', and Grant mentioned they might add that to the set list for the next tour, which would make me a very happy boy, although not quite as happy as if they put 'Sweet 16' in - that would blow my mind! The band them selves seemed to be enjoying themselves, as usual, and they were even five men strong, which I don't think I've seen before (unless the keyboard player always hides at the back and I've never noticed, because the other gigs I've been to have been at least 3 times the size of tonight!), that's plus two to the official number of band members. They finished the first part of their set with another of their newer rockers, 'Lost and Found', complete with and interlude where Grant, having evidently noticed the similarity in riffs between the tow songs started singing the lyrics to 'All My Life' By the Foo Fighters, to which the crowd responded well, and joined in! Sadly, in some ways, they didn't kick off into a mini cover in the middle of the song, which would have be uber cool, but the audience still loved it, and were jumping around and screaming for more as the band left the stage... I was slightly disappointed the crowd didn't pick up on the best encore chant for Feeder you can do, which is to sing the (super catchy) guitar riff for 'Just a Day', at the NEC in 2006 we all kept it going for about 5 minutes solid, until the band returned and then 'made' us sing a long to the actual song for another 4 minutes! Still, we were a noisy bunch, and it wasn't too long before the lads were back, for a 2 song encore (the down side of it being a small gig, I guess, previous encores have been 4-5 songs) of 'High' and, of course, 'Just a Day' - there would have been a lynching if they hadn't! By the end of the gig I was knackered, and in desperate need of water, so I was both pleased, and impressed with myself, when I managed to effortlessly catch one of the bottles of water Taka was throwing into the crowd - saved me queuing up at the tiny little bar! I can't say enough how much fun Feeder are live, This is the third time for me, and I'm already regretting having not bought a ticket to see them at the Thekla in Bristol on Friday as well - apparently that venue is a boat as well! I've heard several people who weren't impressed with them judging by their records who have seen them live and said they were surprised at how good they were - so go see them!! For those in that part of the world, they are playing at Fuji rock in the summer, as well as in Seoul (my big sis is gonna kick herself about hat, two years living there, she moves back and where do Feeder go?!). (far too few, from too much jumping around and the like) Pictures HERE. And now there will be a short interlude in glogging, as I wait for NASS - Less than Jake and The Subways (again) to come after 15/06! Although I can;t promise not to find another cool gig to go to in the mean time - two weeks is starting to be a very long time without a gig for me!

I'm really quite impressed with this method... Every name so far seems perfectly plausible!!

From: http://aethereverywhere.com/discuss/showthread.php?tid=71 Your Debut Album Band Name Use wikipedia... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random The name of the first random Wikipedia article you get is the name of your band. Album Name Use random quotations: http://www.quotationspage.com/random.php3 Choose the last four words of the very last quote on the page is the title of your first album. To get another set of quotes... use the page refresh on your browser. Album Cover Use flickr's "explore the last seven days" http://www.flickr.com/explore/interesting/7days/ The third picture is your album cover. Mine came out as: In A Model Room, with their debut album 'More Men Will Do' could work... :s EDIT: Ooops! I forgot my pic!

Lol, by the sounds of it I want both! Maybe when I've got a job I'll feel rich enough, but with my travel to Glasgow for the meet looking to be £80 I think I'll have to wait a while

As long as you write with it in mind I wouldn't expect there to be any problems at all... If anything it'd be good, a little different to the usual... Try listening to this for an example of bass instead of high vox. (click for original, and for the bassier and orcehestral cover). I love The Divine Comedy! Note: Actually on re-listening it's not as bassy as I remembered, but I think point is still made to a degree..?!?! :S

Simply put it would necessarily be bad, but going by the price you certainly wouldn't expect it to be, because good quality equipment costs money 90% of the time. While you might get lucky and find a bargain somewhere and get a guitar for that price, you would have to play it a bit to ensure the quality, because until you spend £100+ you can't assume good quality. Even if you do spend £100 or more you might find you dislike some thing about the guitar, as they come in all shapes and sizes - the action might be too high/low, the tone might not be what you want, etc. Basically we're saying go for it if you really want, but don't expect it to be any good! If you want to make sure your money is well spent go into a shop and try a few out, you might even find the same brand in a shop, in which case you would be able to give one a try and then end up getting it of eBay anyway! (incidentally, the link you sent is from a shop, so don't worry about 'missing' the guitar on ebay, they'll have more, or someone else will...) Good luck

I hate to say it John, but the layout is all weird for me... The pictures are all mismatched to the headings, and it looks a bit messed up... (firefox)

I'm afraid the only way to find out about that guitar is to buy it and see... It could go either way, but realistically it will (probably) not be great. However, it might be good enough for you to play on and get to a stage where you NEED a better guitar, or if it's not going to be your primary instrument, and not used for recording, it will probably be fine. That said I would advise checking out local shops, you would (hopefully) be surprised at the prices... I was last time I looked! That way you KNOW that your money is well spent, even if it does end up being somewhat more...

It does increase the sound, but like I say, just turn it up if you want volume... When you say faster, do you mean like single note fast? Cause that might be true, but how about playing riffs that cover several strings at high speed? Personally I find it easier to go fast like that using my fingers, I find the pick gets in the way... If you mostly play punk then that's cool, but I would seriously advise learning to use your fingers too, even just as a skill expansion (I found my overall playing got better after learning to finger pick properly, even tho I don't finger pick very often even now...) Realistically it does come down to personal preference, but my preference is right! Though if you look at the best bassists around, they all avoid picks... (I'm thinking Les Claypool, Victor Wooten, Flea from chilis, erm, I'm not that hot on bassist names tbh! lol)

Fingers sounds way better for everything but punk. It's smoother, and cooler, and you can play faster over multiple strings with your fingers... If you want more volume, turn it up! Just go listen to some of this guy. Lol. Personally I enjoy playing bass with my fingers more anyway, just feels better/more fun.

I'm with Nightwolf here... I love well used screams (Audioslave are my favourite example), but I dislike too much of it... And my threshold is possibly comparatively low...

Dammit, now I'm stuck - ebow or sustainiac?! It'll be neither for awhile as I can;t afford them... The sustainiac sounds cool, and I like the no need to turn the volume down to use it factor (apparently ebows boost the volume a lot), but I like the fact you can pick one string at a time with the ebow, and use it on steel stringed acoustics (yes theres a vid on youtube, and yes I'm thinking 'what about a twelve string?'!!) Well, at least I have time to make the decision, I can get some web research done

Lol, for lyrics I have a stack of paper on top of one of my CD racks, and of course any I have stuck on here are automatically stored! Music wise it's all in a folder on my computer either in my 'real' folder, of actual recordings, or my 'GP5' folder, of guitar pro versions... And both those are within my 'guitar stuff' folder with all my tabs and general useful guitarness... I'm a bit of a tidy freak when it comes to my computer, I find it impossible to use a computer without a nice clean and orderly desktop... My parents are worst for computer messiness, their desktop on their mac (which thankfully finally died recently) was so cluttered the icons were piled 2-3 thick!! :/

Terrorvision 23/05/2008 Right, this was at the Carling Academy in Bristol again (the last there for the foreseeable future) and because of the venues silly curfews (I think I might rant about that soon, maybe even at the end of this glog...) it opened at 18:30 to finish for 21:45(!). The support slot started at 19:00 and was taken care of by The Sound Explosion. These guys were great! You know all those 'how to make your band successful' advice things? They had it all down to a T! From a high energy performance, with some banter with the crowd, right down to giving away free album samplers and selling their merch cheap (£8 T-shirt, which I didn't buy, and a £5 album, which I bought). Not only did they have the whole PR thing sorted, but their music fully rocks! They have a kind of old school metal/hard rock sound, but a bit more modern, or something - I'm a bit rubbish at pigeon holing... Basically they have fat riffs and big solos, and pretty kickass drum parts (I kept catching myself focusing on the drum beat, and missing awesome guitar parts!). They had loads of energy, and deserved a more energetic response from the crowd, as they were going all out - one guitarist climbed over the crowd barrier and soloed in amongst the audience, and then climbed back on stage and on top of one of the speaker stacks at the side of the stage! The other guitarist wasn't gonna let him have all the lime light though and 'joined' him on a different stack before they both jumped down again... They played for about half an hour, and managed to get quite a (well deserved) good cheer when they left (in a good way! ). Quick disclaimer - I'm gonna assume no-one actually at the gig is gonna find this and take an educated guess at the play order - there's a few I know for certain, and I know the songs they played for certain (except for one), the order is just a little fuzzy... Also these guys are an old favourite, that I've been wanting to see live for YEARS. I was very excited before hand, and will be buzzing about it for ages afterwards! Terrorvision finally made it on stage sometime past 20:00 (maybe quarter past) with a little intro of lights out and four fire engine style revolving blue lights going (cue excited crowd, obviously) and then the band came on and launched straight into Celebrity Hitlist, a personal favourite of mine, which got everyone down the front jumping up and down - a trend that happily continued for the rest of the gig pretty much! One of the great things about Terrorvision (TV from here on to save my keyboard!) is that they have innately sing-a-long-able songs - like Offspring - everyone knows the words when they're at a gig! The crowd was in full throat from the very start, and with a well chosen set list they only encouraged it. I'll say here there was one slightly dud choice in the set, 'Fists of Fury', which I think would have been better replaced by 'Stop the Bus' (there was a chant started before the encore of "Stop the Bus, Stop the Bus" in place of the more usual 'we want more'). Other than that I don't think I would disagree with their choices, I would have liked other song to be played, but then I would have liked them to do a 2.5 hour set... The band had (have?) a great look live (everyday?!) - full on 'arena rockers', made me think of U2, but more sleazy! The guitarist had red trousers and red/white striped shirt with slicked back hair, and the bassist was decked out in a pair of Bono style sunglasses, with equally oily looking slick hair. The singers trousers were a little on the tight side as he managed to tear them down the 'butt-seam' about half way through the set! (The people right at the front were loving it, and coaxed him into waving it their direction a few times...). There was general good humour among the band, and they seemed to be really enjoying themselves, and after getting the crowd to do most of the chorus for 'Fists of Fury' (I think - regardless it was a good sing-a-long "Party over here F**k you over there!") Tony was bowing down to our vocal roar. When they left the stage after 'Oblivio-uun bop, ba, ba, doo wop' (or 'Oblivion' as it's more usually known, but impossible to say with out the rest) the crowd were roaring for more before they'd even half left the stage, and there was only one very short quiet moment before they returned, everyone was dieing for more. On their return they had seats(!) and sat down to down an acoustic section! One of the last things I had expected, but it was really good. I think it;s a shame they didn't play 'Desolation town' cause it's an great song that I love, but their choice was good - especially the acoustic versions of 'Tequila' and 'Discotheque Wreck'. Apparently Tequila was originally intended to be acoustic, which having seen it done so I can fully believe, in fact I intend to either see them peform it in a small, dingy, pub, or I will cover it in one myself, cause I think it would work great! After 'Discotheque Wreck' they grabbed the electric guitar again and launched into 'Pretend Best Friend' (which I had been worried they'd left out) followed by the classic, and excellent fun live, 'Perseverance'. To sum it all up: AWESOME! I think I'm gonna hurt tomorrow, but SO worth it. I just hope that they weren't entirely joking when they mentioned possible new material in a little while - Terrorvision needs to make a proper big come back, nuff said! Pictures here. Sorry about the quality, but I was too busy killing my calves jumping around to get many good shots... And for those that care here's a rough hash of the set list (if anyone who was there reads this and disagrees, please let me know!): Celebrity Hitlist New Policy One - one of the pleasant surprises. My House Discotheque Wreck Friends and Family Hide the Dead Girl Fists of Fury Sometimes I'd Like To Kill Her Josephine Middleman Enteralterego What Makes You Tick Dog Chewed the Handle If I was You D'ya Wanna Go Faster - I was worried they wouldn't play it, it was great! Alice, What's the Matter? Oblivion - I really wanted them to do like the album and kick straight into Stop the Bus here . Encore: Killing Time, Acoustic - I'm not 100% this ones right, but meh. Some People Say, Acoustic Tequila, Acoustic - worked surprisingly well! Discotheque Wreck, Acoustic - Also very good acoustic! Pretend Best Friend Perseverance

Awesome, next time I get around to playing a lot I'll be taking a look at those links Lazz! Cheers! @Jules: I would say don't worry at all about the theory, try learning it, but it's not super necessary for a little while, as even if you don;t know what key you;'re playing your ears will usually tell if you go wrong. What I found fun is when the theory starts falling into place and then little patterns you may have noticed suddenly have a reason behind them... I usually find practical examples 100% necessary to make me understand stuff though, so you might be different! Oh, and honestly Lazz! Such bad manners! Did your mother not tell you it's rude to point?!

Lmao! That's excellent... Just the kinda news I like

Lol, there's always one... I will just say that to begin with I did play a majority of Offspring songs, so it does mostly depend on what you want out of it (as usual, it all comes down to personal preference in the end!!) Realistically, which ever one you I'd stake money that you'll be back here in 6 months or a year (depending on when finances allow!) wanting the one you didn't get... Cause I love both types, and generally have 'acoustic moments' and 'electric moments' where I concentrate on one or the other, meaning that when I return to the neglected discipline I find it loads more fun again, and really different...

Wow, I almost wish I'd learned on a 12-string... My fingers aren't very strong at the moment, so my 12-string isn't getting as much play time as it should...

But what about Gogol Bordello?! Their accordion sounds excellent! And Bluetones make good use of it... I don't think there's ANY instrument I always hate...

I will second the 'fall in love with it' sentiment... that's what I did with the only guitar I went shopping for properly! I had a really fun day with a (more skilled and knowledgeable) guitarist friend going around all the guitar shops we could find in Poole/Bourenmouth. In the end I went for the first guitar I tried - but it was worth trying all the other guitars and shops so that I was sure, and just because trying guitars is fun!!

I would agree with going acoustic to start with, although you may want to go loud and distorted from the start, I find the distortion just hides my screw ups, and playing acoustic forces you to get better quicker... The vast majority of rock songs can be played acoustically and still sound cool, if not better sometimes... That's why I love seeing/hearing bands unplugged, cause they can give their stuff a completely different feel to normal...